Seduction: 3. Attraction
ATTRACT PHASE
Highlights:
1. Body language for attraction
2. Being a challenge
3. Engaging the competitive instinct
4. Being unpredictable and spontaneous
5. Being mysterious
6. Using Takeaways and Open Loops
7. Using Push/Pull
8. Using Role-Playing
9. Demonstrating higher social value
10. Showing indifference to her
11. Taking the lead
12. Using Cocky & Funny comments and themes
13. Using fluff talk to bridge between attraction points
14. Storytelling
15. Directing the conversation to sexual themes
16. Projecting Sexual State
17. Establishing dominance and dealing with tests
18. Dealing with poor behavior
19. Disarming obstacles
20. Dealing with “Let’s Just Be Friends”
21. Advancing to Qualifying Her
The Attract phase is the MEAT of your interaction. It’s fine to open a woman, it’s fine to qualify her, it’s find to develop rapport, but if you don’t stir that emotion of ATTRACTION in her, all you’re doing is making a new friend.
As David DeAngelo is quick to point out, ATTRACTION ISN'T A CHOICE. It's an unconscious response to certain personality characteristics and behavioral cues. If you simply hope that a woman will give you what you want by virtue of being around her, you’d better hope again. You have to do things to TRIGGER attraction. You have to demonstrate those behavioral cues.
Note that this section is a “how-to” guide for attraction. It tells you what to SAY and DO to demonstrate that you have attractive qualities. What’s most important though is not what you say or do, but your ATTITUDE and the way you come across as you say or do it. Get your attitude/inner game spot-on, and it won’t matter much WHAT you say or do.
Be the ALPHA male! In the animal kingdom, the Alpha male is the boss of the pack. He mates with most of the females in the pack, while the Beta males have a lower status and mate with few females, if any. Alpha indicates HIGH STATUS. You don’t have to be a rich CEO or a rock star to have the MINDSET of the alpha male. Since you live in your own reality, realize you’re the KING of YOUR reality! Hold the belief that you have extremely high social value and that you’re the boss in your reality, and it’ll come across in your interactions with women.
During the attract phase, try whenever possible to ISOLATE the target. If you’re in a high-distraction area, invite her to go somewhere else where there are less distractions. If you’ve just met her on a busy sidewalk, invite her to a nearby coffee shop where people won’t bump into her and break her attracted state. If you meet her at a noisy club, invite her somewhere else (terrace or quieter corner), and get her away from her friends. If you met her on a dance floor, move her up against the wall and away from the crowds.
Here’s a playful intro for an isolation attempt: “Hey, come with me.” (What? Where??) “I'm going to kidnap you to make your friends feel bad. No one will suspect it was me! Come on”
A note on attraction techniques
DON’T overdo any of the following techniques. There are so many guys who try to use humor and fun in an “exchange” frame with women—just like the guys who try to impress women with money. A few too many jokes and quips could be interpreted as an exchange frame gesture, like buying her drinks. You’re trying to give value to her by being entertaining, and this can oversell the prospect (you). Tone it down and convey that it is YOU, a part of you, and not some kind of show. Be strong, never be submissive, don't become a song and dance show, be cool and relaxed, and CONSISTENT WITH THESE CHARACTERISTICS. Be playful (especially when you first meet a woman), but tone it down after a few minutes. At that point talk less, but when you do, make it count.
1. Body language and tonality for attraction
Good body language means having no nervousness or tension in your body.
There are 3 types of body language: Macho, Good guy, and Nice guy. The
Macho guy takes up LOTS of space, and looks like he's overcompensating for something. A Nice guy takes up as little space as possible and looks insecure and beta to others. The Macho guy façade will get you rejected just as much as
the Nice guy façade. A “Good guy” is somewhere in between and projects a cool,
relaxed image.
Using your body
- • Lean back
- • Take up space
- • Don't fidget, and be relaxed
- • Smile occasionally but not all the time, it looks insecure if you're constantly smiling
- • Slow down your movements…even BLINKING and looking around. Relax your breathing.
- • Always… eye contact, eye contact, eye contact! Use triangular gazing to amplify sexual state (looking softly from one eye to the other, to her lips, repeat)
- • Lean away from women when talking. Rarely lean in.
Use body language as a reward or punishment/take away. If she says something you approve of, move in closer or touch her briefly, or turn your body more to face her. If she says something that you disapprove of, lean back, cross your arms or take a step back, or turn your body more away from her.
Move into her and "slightly" intrude on her personal space. Move in and whisper in her ear if the place you're in is too loud. Have your lips "accidentally" brush her earlobe when you go to whisper in her ear.
If you’re in a loud club, hold your drink close to your chest when talking to her. When you lean in to talk into her ear make it so that the outside of your forearm brushes against her breast gently and momentarily. You might find her starting to ask stupid questions just to have you lean in again!
If you're walking outside, have her lock elbows with you. This is powerful because it assumes that you're together.
Get noticed by your body language alone. Walk slowly, with your shoulders thrown back. Don’t just walk, STRUT. Imagine the power you’d be walking with if you were the King of France, walking on a red carpet just for you. Hold your head high and make eye contact with people frequently
Moving in set
Always remember that you need to keep MOVING while you're in set. Don't just walk up, plant yourself in front of the set, and game them stuck in place like a tree—you’ll come off weird. One thing that ALL good PUAs do is simply that they are ALWAYS MOVING while in set. Backturns, taking a few steps back then forward (as if you’re about to leave), sitting down, moving the set around, etc.
Moving in set
Always remember that you need to keep MOVING while you're in set. Don't just walk up, plant yourself in front of the set, and game them stuck in place like a tree—you’ll come off weird. One thing that ALL good PUAs do is simply that they are ALWAYS MOVING while in set. Backturns, taking a few steps back then forward (as if you’re about to leave), sitting down, moving the set around, etc.
Voice tone and projection
The Macho/Nice/Good trinity also applies to voice quality. For instance, a low voice (Nice guy) shows meekness and nervousness, whereas an overly loud voice (Macho guy) shoes overcompensation and insecurity. Also, when it comes to voice and speech matters, you want to try and cut out “placeholder” words (words that you throw in while your brain tries to think of what to say next).
Examples of this are “right,” “um,” and “you know.”
Projecting your voice communicates strength and security, and people will take notice of you. It will allow you to take control of groups better, and is a very useful skill to have in a loud environment like a club or bar.
Also, work on speaking slower and deeper, and…using…PAUSES.
Body language and tonality troubleshooting
There are four major cues that show a lack of confidence:
1. Speaking too quickly. You want to speak powerfully and clearly, projecting your voice. If you speak too quickly, it looks like you're just running your mouth
and don't really know what to say.
2. Nervous energy. Having lots of nervous energy shows a serious lack of confidence, almost like you're not comfortable in your own body or nervous about talking to the girl. If you have this nervous energy, clasp your thumbs in you back pockets and lean back. This will make you look more laid back and relaxed even if you are screaming with terror on the inside.
3. Laughing at your own jokes. The last cue that gives away a lack of confidence is laughing at your own jokes. Laughing at your own jokes undermines the humor and makes it look like you're trying too hard to be funny. Allow others to determine what's funny and judge them on it. If you laugh at stuff that isn't funny, you look like a tool.
4. Nervous ticks and fidgeting. You may APPEAR calm and confident when talking to a woman, but if your foot is shaking, you’re gritting your teeth, or you’re tapping the table it’ll give away the fact that you’re nervous. Work to eliminate these habits from your normal behaviors.
Tonality shifts are huge in all interactions with chicks at any stage. You don’t want to be that boring guy. Change things up!
2. Being a challenge
When a girl asks you what you did yesterday, never say, "Oh, I just sat around and was bored." Better to say, "I was up early to run errands and take care of business, then worked out, met a friend for supper, and went to work." Lie if you have to. And don't worry, you'll get used to it! "Fake it til you make it"
If a girl calls and asks what you are doing, reply with, "I just walked in the door" or "I'm just on my way out to take care of some things."
Don't hang on the phone for hours talking to girls indicating you don't have anything else to do. Get the business of the call over, be pleasant, then excuse yourself. Always try to get off the phone first.
By not calling a girl every night or contacting her every day, you show that you are busy and have other things that are important in your life besides her. This lets her know that she is going to have to compete for your time. Don't always return calls promptly.
If you run into her in public, be pleasant and friendly. Show her that you have an interest in her, but then excuse yourself because of having things to do. In this way, you show her that she is going to have to work for your time. You are not "easy."
By letting people know that you are a person doing things and active, you suggest a lot to a girl. Certainly, you must be someone who knows where you are going, hence, leadership. You play on her sense of wanting what she can't have because she will have to compete for your time with all of your other activities. You will appear to be different from all the other guys who are hanging on her begging for her time. She will suspect that there are other girls in your life or you wouldn't be so busy. And finally, she is going to have to use her charms to seduce you away from all these other activities - and girls just love a challenge.
Make her miss you. But in order for scarcity to be effective you have to be sure of one thing. The time she does spend with you must be absolutely amazing, and without a doubt the best time she could have with anyone. You need to be able to create an awesome, MEMORABLE experience with anyone, anywhere, especially when it really counts.
Also, she can NEVER be the first priority in your life. Always put her second to something, whether it be your family, career, friends, whatever, but leave a small piece of hope in her mind that she could become #1.
When dealing with women, DON’T OVERSELL! Don't try too hard to attract and impress. When it shows you're trying too hard, bragging, etc, you're not a challenge, you're the one trying to prove your worth! Stay relaxed, and make the few actions and words you use COUNT. Try not to say more than two sentences in a conversation before you allow her to respond, and no more than five when telling a story.
3. Engaging the competitive instinct
Part of being a challenge is bringing out women’s natural competitive instinct. Women want what other women have! Married men will tell you that they get more attention from women than when they were single. They’re a CHALLENGE!
If you have a hickey, claw-marks on your back, get caught with lipstick on your collar, etc., say to the woman who noticed "Well, the ladies are marking their territory". Don't be all embarrassed and apologetic for it. You don't have to be exclusive with a woman to whom you have no commitment.
Create competition in the eyes of girlfriends by telling them when meeting their friends "I think your friend has a crush on me".
In your small talk, discretely drop hints that you have women in your life, possibly as more than friends. "My friend is supposed to come over tonight. *SHE* wants to watch a movie or something. But if she can't make it, I'll probably be going downtown."
If the conversation gets on dating and relationships (Which it will, because you will LEAD it there), throw in:
"When I'm talking to girls and they ask me if I have a girlfriend, they seem really shocked when I say that I'm single." She’ll pick up on the subcommunication: She KNOWS that when a girl asks a guy if he has a GF, that’s an Indicator of Interest. She understands that these girls are attracted to you. This creates implied SOCIAL PROOF.
"When I'm talking to girls and they ask me if I have a girlfriend, they seem really shocked when I say that I'm single." She’ll pick up on the subcommunication: She KNOWS that when a girl asks a guy if he has a GF, that’s an Indicator of Interest. She understands that these girls are attracted to you. This creates implied SOCIAL PROOF.
When asked if you see other women, never answer directly. Deflect with humor and say something like "No, other MEN" or "THOUSANDS. In fact while you were just in the bathroom I banged one of them." If she just won't leave you alone about it: "Well, yes I do go out with a lot of girls because I'm picky". Wait for her to talk. She'll most likely say: "How can you be picky if you go out with a lot of girls? It doesn't make sense." This is where you'll win her over by saying: "When I find the girl who can keep me interested then I'll stay with her. I need to go out with different girls to give myself a chance of finding her. Otherwise I'd have to just stay at home and I'll never meet my dream girl will I?" By ending this with "will I?" you put her in a position where it is her turn to answer and any reasonable, thinking woman will agree with what you're saying.
4. Being unpredictable and spontaneous
Inconsistency is the key to driving her desire up. Consistency only sends messages to her subconscious that you are a man she could RELY on, but that doesn't make her LUST after you. You can use an analogy of rides at an amusement park: Consistency and predictability is the Ferris wheel. Ho hum. Boring. You go up, and around, and back down ... and up.... Nothing fast. Nothing unknown. Just a tall view and look around the area. Nice, but NO thrills. Inconsistency - Surprise, danger, thrills - are found on the ROLLER COASTER. Get her in the front car and start her heart racing with the unknown. You have to get her on the right ride if you want to get where you want to go. Keep her off balance, so she doesn't know what's coming.
5. Being mysterious
Being mysterious doesn’t mean faking that you work for the CIA and keep everything a secret. It simply means not being an open book. If you knew ahead of time how a movie ended, you probably wouldn’t be as interested in it. It’s the same thing with mystery; by maintaining an air of mystery about something, whether it be about yourself, an event, or your past, you invoke a woman’s curiosity and keep her interested.
Too much disclosure by YOU too early kills (MURDERS!) your chances for sleeping with a woman. Too much disclosure means you lack SELF-CONTROL, and that's one of the critical components of your self-confidence. It's better to err to the side of giving her too little information. It creates more mystery, which works in your favor (as long as you work to increase her attraction along with it). Telling her something negative about you can NEVER increase the positive feelings she has for you. It doesn't work like that. Don’t be a disclosure machine! Leave some questions unanswered. You can actually use bits of disclosure as a reward method when she does something you approve of.
She asks you what you did last Saturday: “That’s classified”.
She asks you something about your past: “I’ll tell you when I know you better” (a challenge for her, because it gives her something to strive for—earn your trust/get the details)
She asks how many women you’ve slept with: “Wouldn’t YOU like to know that? Heheh”
She asks what you two are doing Friday night: “It’s a surprise”.
Tell her “I have something for you”. When she asks, don’t tell her no matter how hard she pushes. It can be something as simple as a kiss, but she won’t know that until you see her.
6. Using takeaways and open loops
Takeaways involve getting her really into something you’re saying or doing, and then literally taking it away. Say she’s laughing and enjoying herself with you and you unexpectedly say “I have to go see my friends, I’ll be back in a few minutes”. That’s a takeaway. You show open and receptive body language to her while you talk, then lean back and cross your arms unexpectedly, or turn your back on her to focus on a distraction. That’s a takeaway. This is the idea behind ending interactions first, and on a positive note. As the saying goes, ALWAYS LEAVE THEM WANTING MORE.
Takeaways can be used as a system of reward and punishment as well. Reward positive behavior by giving her value and attention, punish negative behavior by taking it away.
Open loops are similar to takeaways, but involve leaving something unresolved. An example of an open loop would be telling a woman, “I’ve been meaning to tell you something all night. I think you’re…Hold on, I think I just saw someone I know, I’ll be right back.” OR as she’s talking just interrupt with “You know, I just realized something about you.” When she says “What?” say “….I’ll tell you later.” And just smile. Resist her attempts to pry it out of you and change the subject. Another example of an open loop would be calling a woman’s answering machine and leaving the following partial message: “Hi HB, I have the funniest story to tell you about last night! It all started when this bum came up to me on the street. And then he held up this cat that only had 3 legs…Anyway, call me”. Another open loop example: When you see she’s getting involved and really interested in some idea or story you’re telling, change the subject with no warning.
The whole purpose behind an open loop is to get the HB interested in the outcome, then avoid disclosing it. Just like you stay and watch a shitty show just to see how it ends, people will listen to your shitty story just to see how it ends. If the conclusion is withheld they’ll feel a bit cheated, and may want to hear it to the point of a minor obsession. This is why soap operas have hooked women for decades; the shows never truly conclude, and always end with open loops. Open loops cause frustration, and the person will then crave emotional relief. By withholding that relief you build up tension.
Here are some more examples of open loops:
“SOMETHING ABOUT YOU” OPEN LOOPS While telling a woman a story, say something like: “I bet you like attention”, or “I bet you were a daddy's girl” Then resume your story. Now if you’ve peaked her interest, she’ll interrupt you. If you haven't, just keep making comments like this until she takes the bait. When she takes the bait, she’ll be thinking to herself, “What does he mean by that?” (This is great because it gets them interested on an EMOTIONAL level). She’ll interrupt you with, "What do you mean by that?"
Retort with something like "Didn't your mom teach you any manners? It’s rude to interrupt someone while they’re talking. But I know this because you remind me of my...well I will tell you later" and then resume telling the rest of your story.
“SHE WANTS TO TELL YOU SOMETHING INTERESTING” OPEN LOOPS When she tells you she has something interesting/exciting/etc to tell you, say “I’m busy right now but that sounds interesting, why don’t you tell me when we get together?”
NUMERICAL OPEN LOOPS “There are 3 things I look for in a woman”. Then only tell her two!
SILENCE OPEN LOOPS When she’s trying to explain or justify something, be silent and unexpressive. She’ll wonder if you agree with her or not and try harder to explain herself.
GETTING HER TO SAY “WHAT” OPEN LOOPS Say “you’re such a girl” and when she says “What? What is it?” just smile and change the subject or look away.
7. Using Push/Pull
In the game of attraction, if you try to pull someone closer to you, they’ll resist. And if you try to push them away from you, they’ll want you because you’re a challenge. Doing both (within limits) can be emotionally confusing to a woman, and this builds tension.
Push/pull can be described simply through the following phrase: “I like you…I don’t like you…Wait, I think I like you….Nahh, I don’t like you….Actually, now that I think about it, I like you! Well…I’m not sure…”
By constantly giving approval (pulling) and then taking it back (pushing), you’re leaving ambiguity in your communication and driving the woman crazy. Here’s some examples of push/pull in action:
“You know, you’re kinda cute. I think you’d make a nice girlfriend. WAIT, can you cook? I need a woman who can cook! Oh, you can? Great! I’m impressed. BUT what kind of food do you cook? Oh, Thai? I’m not sure I like Thai. What else can you cook? Italian? Now we’re talking! I like you already! BUT can you cook GOOD Italian food is the question.”
"You're my new girlfriend." (pause) "No, I changed my mind, we're broken up." (why) "You're too nice for me...look at you, you're already IN LOVE with me...you don't even know me!" (OMG hahahaha, No I'm not!) "Just look at your body language, man...laughing at all my dumb jokes, falling in love..."
Another example, that’s more serious: “Oh, you have a Masters degree in ______? Great, I LOVE smart women! They’re fun to be around. But are you TOO intellectual? I’m not crazy about women who are too intellectual, they’re not as fun. But I find the field of ______ very interesting, so it would be fun to get to know you I’m sure.”
A process like this gets her thinking “Oh, a compliment…I’ve got him! Ummm..maybe not. Oh wait, he DOES like me. Aww no that’s not good enough for him. So does this guy like me or not?”
You can also use your body language for push-pull purposes. Communicate interest one minute by leaning forward, showing enthusiasm, etc, then show indifference the next minute by leaning back, crossing your arms, looking bored, turning your body away from her, etc.
Push/pull is a fine art that needs to be used with caution. Watch your target’s reaction and make sure you’re not going too far. She should be a little frustrated by your ambiguous behavior (this frustration builds sexual tension), but if she’s showing anger you’re probably pushing it too far.
Here are some more examples of push/pull:
GUILTY CONSCIENCE: Provoke her into doing something, then make her feel guilty about it. She goes to kiss you: “I can’t kiss you, you’re like my little sister! That would be like incest.” Then pull her to you and kiss her.
BREAKING RAPPORT: Show that you CAN connect with her on some topic, and when she gets into it, change the topic.
GOOD COP/BAD COP: Being mean or condescending but then following it up immediately with a nice estimation. Gets her seeking validation. “You’re so X. You know, I usually don’t get involved with women who are X, but you have a great way of looking at the world so it’s cool, we can hang out.”
INTENTIONAL UNDERMINING: “You have SUCH a gorgeous smile.” (Thank you). “Actually I know four other people who have really nice smiles, so I’m going to call you number 5.”
UNDERMINING RAPPORT: Once rapport is established, say something like “You and I are too alike, we’d never be able to hang out together”.
If she wants to wear your jacket/hat/etc: “You have to be very special to wear this hat” Give it to her for a 30-second trial period, then pull it away and make her re-earn it. “Time’s up!”
8. Using Role-Playing
Role-playing involves finding a humorous situation and then projecting the two of you into that “role”. It’s very powerful because #1 it’s FUN, and #2 it projects the 2 of you doing things together in the future (even though the situations are clearly fictional). Here are some examples of role-plays you could use:
Vegas wedding role-play
-You’re pretty cool. We should get married. Right now. Let’s go to Las Vegas and get married! It was good enough for Britney Spears, it’s good enough for us!
-There’s a plane leaving for Vegas in 2 hours. I checked!
-We’ll get Little Richard himself to marry us. Or do you prefer Elvis?
-Since we’re gonna annul the marriage after, we have to follow the rules: So we can’t have any sexual contact! (Awwwww) Ok, well maybe some heavy petting and a hickie then.
-We could have our honeymoon in Fiji! And we can stay in those grass huts that stand over the water.
-Actually FORGET the grass huts…our wedding night activities would tear the hut to shreds! And we’d get grass stains all over our NAKED bodies from all the friction! (If she brings up the no sex annulment rule, say “Well the judge won’t know we did anything when we go for the annulment”)
-Remember, we’re only gonna be married for about 2 weeks, so don’t make too many plans!
If going for a walk later, and there’s a church nearby…
-(So what are we doing now?) Well I thought we were gonna get married??
-We don’t need Vegas, its’ the same thing anyway…instead of being married by a man in an elvis costume we’ll be married by a man in a DRESS…instead of carrying you across the threshold in a cheap motel room in Vegas, it’ll be a cheap motel downtown
-Come with me, there’s a church down the street
(Walk to the nearest Church…If your meeting takes place at night there’ll be a 90% chance that the doors will be locked). This is BULLSHIT man! Churches are getting terrible hours, they’re worse than banks these days!!!
(If you happen to find that the church is open, and you have the balls to pull this off, go in with her and talk to the minister!)
Good evening Pastor/Reverend/Father, we’re looking to book a wedding. (when?) Well, as soon as possible (In three weeks in the afternoon blah blah) Can’t it be any sooner? (blah blah) This is a nice church, it must be expensive for a wedding ceremony here? (gives price) Oww…Do you offer financing? What’s your APR? (blah blah) Ok, we’ll go check with another church and come back…we’ll do some price-shopping. Thanks for your time Pastor/Reverend/Father!
(To girl after leaving) See? You have to price shop! These (Baptist, Anglican, whichever denomination) people will rip you off! Ok forget the church, all we need is a minister! We need to find a priest walking around downtown on a Friday night… Or a JUDGE!! A judge could marry us! We need to find a judge.
Hey I have an idea!! Let’s have raw, dirty, public sex right here in the street! We’ll be in front of a judge in no time!! (of course the woman will say no) Ok fine let’s smash some windows, boost a car….then smash it into the back of a police car!
Ok ok forget the wedding for tonight, we’ll get married tomorrow. I’m gonna have my bachelor party tonight, and you’re invited! Now let’s go get loaded and see some strippers!!! (she says she wants to have a bachelorette party) Well, you’ll need to find a male stripper for a bachelorette party, might be kinda tough at this late hour…I volunteer!
Barbie and Ken role-play
“Look at us! We’re sooo cool. We’re like Barbie and Ken!” (call her Barbie the rest of the night, and get her to call you Ken). "I’ll be your Ken doll! Actually I have an advantage over Ken dolls." (What?) "Ken Dolls don't come FULLY EQUIPPED!"
“We can have our own Barbie House…In the summer we can hold a Barbie Barbecue in the backyard, with that fake plastic meat on it. And our own Barbie camper…And you could have that pink Barbie Corvette so you can drive me around in style! And we can ride with the top down with these fake plastic smiles stuck to our faces! (Make really fake smile and hold it till she cracks up). Come on, let’s see YOUR fake plastic smile! (Push her until she does it, and you’ll both crack up together).
If she complains about not being beautiful enough, or she’s not blonde, tell her “It’s okay! You don’t have to be blonde and perfect to be Barbie! You can be the new ‘politically correct’ Barbie! The Barbie who gets zits sometimes…who has trouble walking in high heels…and suffers from PMS! Look at ME for example. I’m playing Ken, do I look perfect to you?” (bust on her playfully if she answers anything other than yes)
Sacrilege role-play
Hey I got a great idea to pass the time! (what) I dress up like a priest…You dress up as a nun…then we go to mass on Sunday, and just to freak everyone out we’d just start MAKING OUT. What do you think, “Sister”?
Simple name role-play
“If you were a man, what name would you want to have?” Then call her by that name from then on. She’ll ask you back, so have an answer ready and be prepared to have her call you it back when you use HER ‘opposite sex name’.
PVC Devil role-play (for use with 2-sets)
"Oh, you're getting fiesty huh? You know what I’d do with you? I’d dress you up.... in a red.. PVC... DEVIL outfit.. You'd have little horns like this... and a tail.. bitch boots, and..... a pitch fork. Now your friend here.. I'd dress her up in a similar angel outfit.. with wings.. and a fur halo.. and I'd roll with you guys on each arm down the street.. Every girl would be jealous of you.. And whenever I'd have to make a decision.. I'd let each of you fight over which decision is the most fun.. and whatever one would be the most fun.. we'd do that." (the periods are to show the pacing, because they roll over laughing in between every pause)
Use this role-play early on in set, or later on in set before you’re about to move them. It implants the idea of rolling on each arm, and then you throw out your arms and they jump on them like magnets.
Bodyguard role-play
If she acts or talks tough, or talks about pushing/punching/kicking some loser/ex-boyfriend who was making a play for her, say “Wow, you’re tough! I’m hiring you as my new BODYGUARD.” If she has pointy shoes on, add “With THOSE shoes you’d be leaving guys on the floor all over the place….holding their balls and groaning in pain.” Tell her “I can’t pay you much, but the benefits are GREAT.” (What are the benefits?) “Well, you get to spend a lot of time hanging out with ME.” If you two are going places, tell her to walk ahead of you to make sure it’s safe. You can take this wherever you want to go with it, since the premise of “guarding your body” can lead to all sorts of things. And if you’re dealing with a groupset: “You guys are TOUGH. I’m making you my bodyguards! Just like protecting the President…You’re my VICTORIA’S-SECRET SERVICE. You guys can run alongside my presidential limo in high heels and skimpy lingerie.”
Political role-play
If she happens to show some interest in politics and it’s around election time: “You know, I think both the political candidates we have are CRAP. We should run for office, you and I. I’ll be the President and you’ll be my running-MATE. But actual mating is optional, of course...” If she resists: “Come on, you know this country could use a FEMALE vice-president! And if you ever wanted to become FULL president, all you’d have to do is arrange my assassination.” Keep pushing her until she agrees, then say “Ok, I accept you as my running-mate. But I have to warn you, there’s a lot of hard campaigning ahead… A LOT of late nights.” If she resists, finally say “Ok, if you’re not going to be my vice-president, then at least I’ll make you one of my bodyguards.” Then go into the bodyguard role-play and bring up “Victoria’s-Secret Service”. By the way, this isn’t limited to Presidential campaigns; you could insert whatever political position suits the discussion (mayor, governor, etc). And you don’t have to do this around campaign time either; just get on the topic of what a shitty job the (mayor, president, etc) is doing, and say “You know, in the next election, WE should run for office.”
Space escape role-play
If a woman is bitching and complaining about something, be it work, studies, money problems, the state of the world, etc., cut her off with the following role play (and you should ALWAYS try to cut off complaining and bitching as quickly as possible, so she doesn’t link a negative state to you): “You know, I’m fed up with things here too. Let’s escape to outer space. You and I, we’ll go to Cape Canaveral and steal the Space Shuttle…Then we’ll fly it to the moon and set up our own little colony…We’ll populate it with 10,000 babies…and we can keep in touch with our friends and family through e-mail”. If she freaks at the thought of 10,000 babies, just say “Well there isn’t much else to do on the moon, it’s not a very exciting place.” This is a pretty limited role-play, but it’s ridiculous enough to break her state and get her off the negative topic. And after this, anytime she tries to bring it up again, you can cut her off with “I told you! We need to escape to the moon! Complaining about it is NOT the solution.”
Swinggcat’s Good Doggie role-play
A ROLE-PLAYING scenario that’s lots of fun to do with a woman is to ask her: “If you were a dog, what kind of dog would you be and why?”
After she answers, say "I like that kind of dog. I might have to buy you from the pet store.”
Then say with a suspicious look on your face, while almost turning your back on her, "You don't pee on the floor, do you?"
If she says "no" then grab her hands while pulling them in close and say, "Good, then I’m taking you home with me".
Then look in her eyes, hold her hands but start to push her just a wee bit away from you, and say "Are you an adventurous doggie? Because if not I’m going to take you to the pound".
If she says that she is, pull her even closer to you and say, "Good doggie" (you might even want to pat her on the head at this point).
Then hug her and tell her that she’s such a cute doggie. Then say to her, "You know why?" She’ll say, "why". Say "Because you remind me of Sammy." She’ll ask, "Who’s Sammy?" Respond by telling her that Sammy was the only dog that you ever loved, but he had to be put down, and since she’s almost as cute as Sammy you’re going to name her “Number Two”.
Then grab her really close as if you’re going to kiss her, look in her eyes, and say: "Ew... you’re trying to kiss me and you’re a dog!!!”
The “Would You” Game
Closely related to role-playing is the “Would You” game. Ask her how much money it would take for her to (be a stripper, change the oil in my car, have sex with an 80 year-old man, etc). Whatever she says, try to talk her down in price!
The real beauty of role-plays is that you can easily use “call-back humor” with them. Next time you call her you can say “Hi! It’s your future temporary husband” or “Hey Barbie! It’s Ken”. This can instantly get her in the fun state created by your prior role-play and start the conversation off playfully.
9. Demonstrating higher social value than her
“The only rule in pick-up is to always be visibly cooler than the chick you’re trying to game.” –Tyler Durden, Cliff’s List
Don’t ever let her show you up. ALWAYS maintain the upper hand. If she makes you look like a fool because you have no comeback or look weak, the target becomes more cool than you and you’re in a position of weakness.
When you're in her presence, you should never treat her like you desperately want and need her approval. Whatever you do, don't try to "impress" her, act apologetic for anything about yourself, or otherwise give away your personal POWER. EVER.
Demonstrate leadership and show AUTHORITY in everything you do. Women are universally not attracted to passive, ass-kissing, weak men. The slightly overconfident, cocky man conveys higher social value.
Never give a woman what she asks for, except on your terms. That includes answers to her questions.
Patronizing comments can also be used to knock a woman off her pedestal and show her that you aren’t intimidated/have higher value:
“You know what? You impress me. You’re A-crowd.”
“Wow, you’re sooo cool. Can I be your friend?”
“You’re so cool. I’m gonna adopt you.”
“You’re so cute, you’re like a little puppy”
“You’re sooo cute, you’re like Sailor Moon without all the martial arts”
10. Showing indifference to her
You must show that you don’t NEED her. As for wanting her, keep her guessing on whether you want her or not. Act like you don’t care if she rejects you or not, act like you could walk away at any moment and not be bothered.
More importantly, don’t push a woman for anything. You must give an unusually attractive woman SPACE. You can't call her every day, tell her that you're in love with her two days after you've met her, chase her around, always ask what she's doing, etc. You must give this special woman THE GIFT OF MISSING YOU.
If you have a life, stay with it. If you don't have a life, get one. Don't sit around wondering what she's doing, calling her, telling her how you "feel", etc. If she wanted another "girlfriend", she'd get one. So don't act like one. Desirable women want men who are INDEPENDENT, and who give them SPACE. In fact, if anything, you need to give a hot woman TOO MUCH space. You want HER to be the one who is calling YOU to figure out what you're up to.
11. Taking the lead
Always take the lead. Women are attracted to dominant men who are leaders. They’re universally NOT attracted to weak, ass-kissing, supplicating men.
Never ask for anything (it gives the woman the power). Use soft commands instead. (NOT "Can I have your number?" but instead "Hey, what's your number"; NOT "Will you dance with me?" but instead "Come on, let's dance" as you take her by the hand and lead her).
Another way to get something is to structure opportunities and offer challenges-It gives YOU the power. If she doesn’t accept the opportunity or challenge, she misses out! Never ask her for anything, instead suggestively entice and let her give to you.
Never give her anything, instead reward her. If she will not give you anything, give her a reason to, or challenge her to, or dare her to.
Be decisive and show that you’re in control. Show that you have AUTHORITY in all situations. Make the decisions as often as possible (including FOR HER when it’s feasible—like ordering her a drink at the bar).
12. Using cocky & funny comments and themes
Using humor is golden. “If you get ‘em laughing, the rest is easy”.
The best approach is using humor combined with a bit of cockiness, to flirt with them while teasing them. This sends all the right signals. In effect, it tells a woman, “I’m not intimidated by you and your beauty doesn’t scare me. In fact, I’m so comfortable around you that I can even make fun of you in a friendly way.”
Although David DeAngelo recommends keeping a serious face while doing C&F, I’ve found that a slight hint of sarcasm and a smirk along with the comment has more of an impact. It also makes you look like you’re playful, and it doesn’t paint you as an a**hole.
Some examples of C&F:
Reach your hand out to help her out of your car or something. Hold her hand for a second longer than pull it away, saying "Hey, no hand-holding this early"
Tells you about a club or hangout she goes to: "It can't be that cool" (why not?) "Because I've never heard of it”.
"Look, just because you're being sweet to me doesn't mean I'm going to sleep with you. You thought I was THAT easy? Come on!"
(with women at work or women working somewhere) "How can you possibly get any work done when you're flirting with me all the time? I know I'm a stud and all but if you lose your job, don't think I'm going to support you!"
(after seeing a woman) "I know we had fun, but please don't become a stalker and call me 50 times a day"
(how are you?) "Well, I've been told I'm pretty damn good!"
(If she makes fun of herself) Her: "I'm such a retard" or "My
hair looks awful" or "My lipstick doesn't look good does it?"
You: "Well, I didn’t want to say anything!"
OR
Her: "My hair looks bad doesn't it?"
You: "You can say that again!" (with a playful tone)
"I have to go and get ready." (where are you going?) "You're taking me for a drink".
Her: "Does my hair look better up or down?"
You: "It looks bad both ways"
Her: "HEY!" *punch* etc..
"You can keep being cold, but I know that deep down, you love me."
"Come on, have you sat down with a SEXIER man than ME today? Be honest."
"You don't get a chance like this everyday...to hang out with a hot guy like ME."
(What kind of woman do you respect?) "Ones that don't ask a lot of questions."
(asks you what your plans are for X day) "NO, you CAN'T take me to Vegas and marry me!" Can lead to Vegas Wedding role-play.
“Wow, that’s an ugly shirt/skirt etc. How long til the bet wears off?” (HEY!) “That’s what happens when you get high before you go shopping”
(How's your love life?) "Have you ever heard of James Bond? You get the idea." OR (So, are you seeing anyone special?) "What do you mean by "special?" No, I wouldn't call any of them "special"... unless you're talking about not being the sharpest tool in the shed... in that case, yes, I'm seeing a couple of 'special' women."
(Goes to hug you) "Look at you, you're all over me!"
"Does it upset you to be walking with such a sexy man because nobody is looking at you, and everyone's looking at me?"
"I know you want me for my sexy body, but I'm tired of feeling like just an object to women. I'm tired of women always staring at me and wanting my body."
"I'm impressed. Normally, women like you are intimidated by my charm and good looks"
(Customer service girl) "Wow, thanks for your help... I think this relationship is off to a good start."
(3rd party: So how do you two know each other?) "We're actually brother and sister." Then start fondling her and say "Our relationship is a bit incestuous."
(invitation to her place) "What?? I don't even know you and you want me at your place already? Sorry I'm not that easy. Whatever happened to the good old days when ladies invited guys for coffee first?"
"Look I know how you women are: First a little compliment, then phone number, then back to your place to check out your stereo...I'm not like that!"
“What makes you think I WANT to sleep with you?” (What??) “I think you need to change the battery on your Miracle Ear.”
A good Cocky & Funny theme to follow is "You're screwing up your chances with me", "This relationship just isn't going to work", "What did I tell you about this kind of behavior?". In other words, you're communicating the very OPPOSITE of "You're a potential wife or girlfriend".
A little harsh, but good if she's got a mega bitch-shield, "I'm hot and I know it" attitude. "You don't know what sexy is... look at you, you're trying too hard, you look like a little girl playing dress up. REAL sexiness doesn't come from wearing make up or tight clothes...you're probably even uncomfortable in those clothes...It comes from inside, being in touch with that natural woman inside of you..."
"Hey, what's with the big purse? You're not one of those women with a live dog named "Precious" in there, are you?"
(You're crazy) "I’m a little unconventional…and I’m definitely NOT predictable! But I'm not crazy. Well, I can get a LITTLE crazy…in bed!"
"Look how happy you are to (hear from/see/be with) me! You LOVE me!"
(You're so ______) "The question is, do you find _______ sexy, or IRRESISTABLY sexy??"
"Don’t think I’m EASY! You have to work for me!"
(uses your bathroom, gone for a long time) When she comes back say, “You're not some Al-Qaeda member trying to plant a bomb in my house, are you?”
If she has really rigid posture, pull your shoulders back, sit up extra straight, and say "I really think you should work on your posture."
(I like you more and more everyday) “DAMN you’re slow… everyone else falls for me right away, what's taking you so long?”
Every time she passes you, say loudly "Will you stop grabbing my ass!"
"I hate you.. Actually wait, that may have come across wrong. I really really
hate you. You know why? You remind me of Justine from Grade 2. She always beat me at hot hands. Here, let's see.." and then play hot hands. If you beat her: “Ok I don’t hate you, because I can beat you at hot hands”. If she beats you (which shouldn’t happen, you’re a man dammit!) say “See? I knew I was right to hate you! You beat me at hot hands.”
"Hey, no groping" (after she touches you)
(Says something intelligent) “Hey, you’re pretty smart…For a GIRL!”
“I could marry a woman like you.” (really?) “I’d divorce you a week later and take half your money.”
If she still lives at home, tease her about being grounded or having a curfew
C&F Responses to compliments
"Wow, you're really into me aren't you?
"Look, I'm not like other guys. This compliment thing isn't going to get you anywhere."
"Already starting with the compliments, huh? Look, let's just get this over with... go buy me the drink already."
"I'm not giving you my phone number, so just stop with the compliments."
"Come on, can't you at least think of something original to compliment me on?"
"I'm cute? You're cute too. What do you wanna do about it?"
(Nice shirt/pants/etc) "Thanks! Would you like to take it off me?"
(You're so _______) "Just giving the public what it wants."
(You're so _______) "I'm glad you noticed. I realize that this is making you very attracted to me, but please...control yourself."
(You have nice muscles) "You know, I'm really tired of you women treating me like some kind of piece of meat. I have feelings too, I'm not just a sex object."
(If she implies you’re a gentleman) “Do you consider me GENTLE? I’ll have to spank you more often then!”
“Caveman” C&F
“Cavemanning” is a form of playful physical teasing. It’s basically cocky kinesthetics/kino. It includes:
-Play fighting
-Giving her a light punch to her arm. If she punches back, “Owwwwww. That’s my WEAK arm!!” This will really crack her up if you’re very built.
-Hockey body checking her
-Picking up something small and swatting her with it! A napkin, straw, etc
-Flicking water at her
-Tickle attack!
-Slapping her butt if she’s being a brat
-Throwing her over your shoulder and walking away with her (“I’m taking you home, you don’t know how to act in public!”)
If she’s getting flustered and asks “Why I am talking to you??” “Because you LOVE me!” (blah blah denial) “Of course! I see it in your eyes!” (check her eyes, pull her eyelids down like a doctor) “Yup, it’s pretty obvious”.
“Hey did you know that they say you need 11 hugs a day to stay healthy?" Joke about her hug shortage, lack of physical contact, etc. Do a “massage-hug”, then: “Ohhh…I don’t know if you DESERVE a massage yet”
Overdoing it (Tyler Durden, Cliff’s List)
Too much cockiness will make you look insecure and arrogant, and too much humor makes you look goofy. You also risk crossing the line into making her feel ridiculed. If C&F goes too far, immediately follow with "You know, I'm so sorry. I’m a total dick sometimes. People think I’m a dick sometimes, because I’m always messing around. I like you. You’re like my bratty little sister. Sorry for being a dick." Say this *sincerely*, but from a position of authority. Like your vocal tonality isn't seeking approval in any way. Then follow it up with a field tested funny story to diffuse the tension.
TURNAROUND STRUCTURE
1- Don't acknowledge that she's even pissed. Don't show any facial expressions of reaction to her getting upset. Laugh it off, but in a way where you're not laughing to cover up discomfort. Like you think she's almost joking or teasing. This is important, because if she thinks you realized she was serious, it's
natural psychology to be consistent to it and not let it go.
2- Interpret it like she just qualified herself to you, in the way that she showed that she can stick up for herself. Do this in a funny way, using funny mini-cold-reads or future adventures projections.
3- Give a brief sincere apology from a position of authority.
4- Follow up immediately with something funny or intriguing to distract her. "Change her mood not her mind." "I grew up with a sister, and teasing was a form of affection" "We're like Sam and Diane from Cheers"
Another concept is that when you heat up the situation, people will crave rapport. The feel the emotional/psychological heat of the interaction, and they want relief of discomfort. Your “apology” and change of subject provides that relief.
Grandmaster Style—Sexually Overt C&F (From alt.seduction.fast)
GM style explained
Contributed to ASF (alt.seduction.fast) by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a pickup artist acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning!) by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconscious to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defenses will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny! Simple. But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. Otherwise you could fail miserably.
Nathan Szilard on GM Flash and his technique, ASF: "That's his aggressive style. Basically he told them he wanted to fuck from the beginning. He had the attitude that he could satisfy them sexually. He had the confidence that says he does this all the time. He was in their face. He was making them excited. He was stimulating them like they are not USED TO being stimulated. If they were going to resist, they would have resisted when he first told them what he wanted from them. There is the INCORRECT assumption that chicks don't like DICK! They love it and they want it! The problem is they want it from the guys they want it from. All he has to do is offer them the SECOND best thing... sexual satisfaction as opposed to sex with a man they WANT! He doesn't even have to satisfy them:) It's too late by the time he's fucking them! All he has to do is make them BELIEVE that if they get with him he is going to fuck them WELL! They couldn't resist because at some point they became HORNY and wanted that RELEASE!"
GM style lines
Nathan Szilard, ASF:
- "If you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonight"
- "Well I can't please every girl but I'll give YOU a chance tonight"
- "Women are lining up to be with me"
- "It's tough to be such a sex symbol"
- "Aren't you going to get too horny if I sit next to you?"
- "I'm organising an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come?"
- "I like you because you're intelligent (gesture over her breasts). I like myself because I'm intelligent too (gesture over your dick)." (once GM even later got a phone-call where the girl said she wanted to show him her intelligence)
- "If you're nice to me I'll lick you."
- "How does it feel like to be with (one/two) handsome guys?"
- "My friend's jealous because mine is bigger."
- "I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone."
- "I wish I could split myself in 5 "me"s so that I could please ALL the women."
- "I have to go to the hospital tomorrow" - "What for?" - "To get an operation, (pointing down) mine's too big"
- "Do you know how I can have a 10 inch dick?" (how) "When I fold it in half"
- "Can you help me? I have to pee and the doctor said I can't lift anything heavy."
- "You know, if you were even HALF as gorgeous as me I'd consider sleeping with you."
- "You're a 9.9 You'd only be a perfect 10 if you were naked and on top of me."
- "Hey you've got something on your butt." (What?) "My eyes!"
- "My lips are registered weapons."
- Group approach: "Ok I'm gonna have sex with you, you, and you. Alright, who's first?"
- "Have you tried an AUSTRALIAN kiss? It's like a French kiss but Down Under."
- "Let's just bypass all the bullshit and let's get naked."
- "I wonder, how would your inner thighs feel against my cheeks?"
- "Let's flip a coin: Head at my place, tail at yours."
- "I want to passionately kiss you on the lips...then work my way up to your bellybutton."
- "You know, if I were you I'd have sex with me."
- "May I pleasure you with my tongue?"
- "It would be so good my NEIGHBOURS will have a cigarette when we're done."
- "Your hair and my pillow are perfectly colour-coordinated."
- "I think I could fall madly in bed with you."
- "You look great, the only problem is your clothes." (what's wrong?) "They're still on."
Update
- "You know, that really bothers me, all those girls going after me, and they're only interested because of it, you know...I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for just my HUGE penis."
- "I should'nt talk about that, I don't want you to get incredibly turned on... I don't want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge throbbing tasty penis." (Nathan: "Her eyes were glowing -- you could tell what she had in mind!")
- "It's not possible to be cute without being picked up ... sometimes I wish I wasn't so cute" (Nathan: "One of the most important aspects of the GM technique is REVERSING ROLES")
- You: "Do you wake up early in the morning?". Her: "No, not really". You: "Good, I don't like to be woken up".
Whenever they don't react positively enough, you say:
"Hide your joy / pleasure!!"
"Last time I saw someone as excited as you, she was in a coma!"
"If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!" (Most of the time the reply will be "no, no, we do like cute guys!". This question reframes their possible dislike of you into a dislike of "cute guys" in general, which however they want to deny, thus being forced to confess, that they actually do like you. Tricky eh?)
Nathan Szilard, ASF: "OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE SHOULD!! He would IF he didn't say "JUST KIDDING " *before* she has a chance to reply. Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious when you see it happening. If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying, "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have fun" or "I like to act like a little kid - I AM a kid". And then he continues with what he started with:) One other thing he uses to go kino fast and often is insulting the girl and then "apologizing" right away by kissing and hugging:)
A possible explanation of why the GM style actually works, Nathan Szilard: "You don't get rejected as you would expect - when you think about it, to reject something, you have to know what it is. When you've heard one particular line a thousand times, you know what it means, what it is, what it aims at ... When GM approaches she's here, wondering what the fuck is going on ... it's so outrageous, she can't react in a predetermined way."
From someone who tried the GM technique just to test it, ASF: "It was at the point I was feeling a little guilty because one was a real sweetheart and I just wanted to fall back to being nice and letting her talk about her boyfriend - but when I did - I could instantly see it was a mistake so I'd come off with "I gotta get an operation tomorrow..." and she'd come back with a "You're so bad" and hitting me... It was easy and she made sure to give me her phone number! I didn't even ask! This experiment tells me to memorize every one of these lines. They are killer! Pure gold! These are powerful jokes. Funny how the one who gave me her phone number kept saying she loved a sense of humour. I thought the jokes weren't funny at all. I was just mouthing words and she was laughing. I couldn't believe it. The other one had to go but she fell right into talking about sex. WOW!'"
Update
Nathan Szilard, ASF: An idea to go beyond GM style: describing the woman as a slut. Instead of telling her "you are beautiful" as an AFC does, describe her as if she was doing something overtly and consciously sexual.
See where I'm going?
What I learned from GM, well and from textbook psychology - you can get people to form an opinion about themselves. Let that opinion be that she is a slut.
The word "slut" in this context is a highly sexual and constantly horny female (not a prostitute).
Update. Doing a pick-up on the street GM-style (suggested by Nathan Szilard, ASF). You have eye-contact with a woman on the street, she passes, and when you turn back, make sure she hears this: "Hey! ... What does this mean? You ogle at me and you don't even stop to talk to me? I'm not a sex object!". She'll probably be standing there, looking back at you and feeling stunned, now go approach, introduce yourself, act all "hurt" for being taken as only a sex object, offer her to chance to make it up to you by having the two of you getting to know each other over a cup of coffee etc:)
Panties in the air. "Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you liked us?" (How?) "Well tonight, when you get back to your place, and you take off your panties, throw them in the air. If they stick to the ceiling, then that means that you liked us!" (Nathan Szilard, ASF "I couldn't fucking believe it, the girls laughed hysterically!!":)
Other GM-Style jokes:
Q. What's the difference between light and hard?
A. You can sleep with a light on.
A. You can sleep with a light on.
Q. Why is sex like a bridge game?
A. You don't need a partner if you have a good hand.
A. You don't need a partner if you have a good hand.
It’s best to use sexually overt C&F after you’ve already attracted the woman a bit with C&F on neutral topics, role-playing, etc. If a woman isn’t attracted to you yet, and you start making all these sexual jokes, you’ll come off goofy and you won’t get taken very seriously. For example, imagine you’re talking to a really fat chick for whom you have no attraction. You ask her what she does for a living and she says, C&F, “I’m a Victoria’s Secret model”. It’s funny and goofy but it doesn’t really arouse anything in you, since you’re not attracted to her in the least to start with. You might laugh, but in your head you’re thinking “NASTY!” Now, when you first roll up on a woman, unless you’re unusually attractive you’re the same to her as the fat girl is to you. To her you’re just another guy from the 35 who approached her so far today, and she has no attraction for you sparked in her one way or the other. If you make sexual comments at that point she might laugh, but in her head she’ll think “PIG” and won’t take you seriously. BUT once you get her attracted with the attraction methods, bringing up sexual themes or overtly-sexual C&F (“GM style”) will get her thinking about sex. That’s where you wanna be.
13. Using fluff talk to bridge between attraction points
When you meet a woman you’re attracted to, at all times you should be attempting to reach “attraction points”, points where her interest in you is at a peak. Getting into a fun role-play with her would be an attraction point. But the attraction point will at some point wind down (for example you can’t keep a role-play up forever), and you need to keep things lively. Fluff talk is a way to keep the conversation animated between attraction points. It allows you to hold a woman’s attention and interest until you find a window of opportunity to use an attraction technique or theme.
Keep your fluff talk FUN! Don’t get bogged down into boring, interview-type conversation: Where did you grow up, what do you do, where did you go to high school, blah blah blah. These questions are BLAH! Every other guy will ask her these kinds of boring, unoriginal questions that bog down the fun atmosphere. You must impress upon her that you are FUN and that she should keep talking to you, so avoid “DEATH topics”.
If it’s not appropriate to be “fun”, at least be emotionally engaging. Women see the world through their emotions, and will rarely pass up an opportunity to discuss emotions, especially relating to men & women, and dating.
If you absolutely MUST ask common questions, try and put a C&F spin on them:
"What's the story behind that?" (good for anything from a necklace to an interesting purse, etc) Ask sort of suspiciously, as if she doesn’t know whether you approve of it or disapprove.
“What do you do?" (before she can answer) "Let me guess…You’re a lion tamer aren't you? Do you stick your head all the way in the lion’s mouth? That must be pretty dangerous work."
“What part of town are you from?” (answer) “Oh, you’re one of THOSE girls?” (when she asks “what do you mean??” avoid answering and change the subject)
"So what do you do for fun?" Makes her think you might be a "fun guy" to be around, while at the same time gives you your answer as to whether she is taken or not. If she’s in a serious relationship, most of the time she will mention the bf when talking about what she likes to do. You can even ask this in a mischievous way and add “Aside from the obvious stuff I mean” if the girl seems that type.
“Do you like ice cream?” (Yes) “On which part of your body do you like it best? Kidding!” Most women like ice cream and will respond to the first part of the question in the affirmative. This is also a test question to see if she’s the type who’d get a kick out of GM style/sexually overt C&F.
Now, if she’s asking interview-type questions about you, she’s interested in you and trying to build rapport. Quit the C&F after a couple questions and just answer them from then on, and ask them back, LIKE NORMAL.
(What do you do?) “I do a lot of things.” (scoff) “What, like you mean you want me to tell you where I work? Do you want to stalk me or something? What do YOU do? Other than stalking guys at their jobs, I mean?” (blah blah, later asks again) “Guess”. (Are you a X?) “Don't insult me like that! Guess again.” (Second guess) “Don't insult me like that either!”
(What do you do?) "I'm a pimp, wanna be one of my hoes?" (whatever answer) "Well I couldn’t take you anyway, I have a special clientele of Japanese business men who pay by the pound…so I only have really fat girls working for me. Your ass is too skinny and you wouldn't bring in enough cash.”
(What do you do?) “I’m an ass model.” (If she laughs stick out your ass at her, and have her hit or feel your ass to see how hard it is) “Do you dare doubt THIS ass?”
(What do you do?) “I work for a male escort agency…We specialize in G-spot orgasms. Our market research showed that women aren’t having enough quality orgasms.”
(What do you do?) “I’m a painter”. (houses, artwork?) “FORGERIES. Van Gogh’s mostly, sometimes a Picasso.”
(What do you do?) “I’m one of those guys who goes around seducing rich women out of their money. Are you rich??”
(What’s your name?) “Guess.” (“Robert” or whatever) “Are you serious?? Do I LOOK like a Robert to you?? That’s such a geeky name! That’s it, there’s NO WAY I’m letting you name our future kids!”
She asks you what you did today: "I went to get some things at the drugstore. You know, NEEDLES to feed my heroin habit...I was running low. But the worst part was I ran into my PIMP on the way back. He told me I wasn't bringing in enough cash, so I'd have to pull a double tomorrow night. So there goes my sleep again."
If she looks bored, here’s your emergency first-aid to re-inject fun in the encounter: "You look BORED! The last time I saw a woman this excited, she was in a COMA!" (confirms she's bored) "Medic! We need 50mg of adrenaline over here, STAT!" [Place your hands apart and say] "So you're pretty sure you don't feel *this* excited yet?" (no) [Bring your hands closer] "Maybe you're feeling *this* excited?" (No, not really.) [Hold up in one hand a very small gap between your thumb and forefinger and, smiling but seriously]: "Could you possibly be at the very least *this* excited?" If she's not smiling by now, she's a lost case. If she IS, then say "See? You're smiling, you're starting to have fun now! So what do you do for fun when you're bored?"
If she says she's stressed: "I'll help you relax with an ancient Indian relaxation technique." (Start gently rubbing her ear lobe and pulling her hair back firmly, which of course only gets her all hot and flustered!)
If you're getting clingy vibes from her, or she seems to keep bringing up relationships: "I think that people get into relationships too fast. I think that two people should wait a MINIMUM of a few months before they even think about it. I have to know someone before I'm running around calling them my girlfriend. Most of the problems happen because people get involved too fast." Engages her in an emotional conversation, as you discuss this.
If she says she's angry about something, or it shows when she's talking about it: "Are you angry?" (a bit) "I don't believe you. I think you're FAKING anger!" (If she denies it) "Ok then, PROVE you're mad! Come on now! Show me your angriest face... GRRRRRRRRR [make a GRRRRR face] Come on, you can do it!!!" (the best part is when they TRY to put on an angry face but cant keep it) "That's a terrible mad face! I don't see a future for you in professional wrestling." This can also be used successfully as a turnaround if she’s a little angry at you for whatever.
“If you really like a guy, how many times do you let the phone ring before you pick it up? If you only “sorta” like the guy? What if you hate the guy? Voicemail?” This can open up an interesting discussion on games she plays with guys who call her (and can even you an insight on whether she’s flaky or not). It also gives material to bust on her later if she answers right away (“You answered after two rings! You must really like me.”) Last but not least, you can use the whole discussion about calling to set up a number close.
If she says she has to leave, even for a minute: "Don't tell me you were scared off by my stunning good looks and sex appeal!" This parting C&F jab will have her leave on a good note, and she’ll be more inclined to come back to talk to you some more.
(Discussing some activity) “We should do that together one day…IF you BEHAVE well enough til then”
"I BET you have a nice smile..." Right after you say that, YOU smile and wait for her reaction. "Ah! See? I knew it."
"When I find my feminine side, I won't be able to stop touching it."
“My horoscope told me I should make new friends today.” (what else) “It also told me finances would be a big part of my day. Are you RICH by any chance?”
Using games
Use games as a last resort if the conversation seems to be stalling too often. Ideally you should be able to carry on a conversation for hours, and keep it interesting using the material found in this program.
Soul Gazing: "Have you ever heard of soul gazing?" (yes or no) "Really? It's something they teach in Tantra. It's where two lovers stare deeply into each others eyes to really become in touch with each other. Wanna try it?" (follow with eye contact with bedroom eyes for as long as possible, if she starts to giggle then move in and kiss her)
“Let’s play the Lying Game: I ask you a question, and you have to come up with the biggest, worst LIE to answer it. The more outrageous the better! You can’t just say “yes” when the answer is “no”. Then you ask me a question and so on.”
Groupset Fluff Talk
(For 3 sets) Use a mini cold-read by saying one is the leader, one is the shy girl that’s really the bad one and one is too nice to be with the other two. If there’s four, point to the fourth and say “And you, I haven’t quite figured out yet.” This one is good to use on your target.
(For 2 sets) Tyler Durden came up with the idea of the “Best Friends Test”, and in his words, it’s CHICK CRACK. They love it. Get talking with a 2-set. At a certain point say, “I’m going to test you to see if you two are close friends” (say BEST friends if they appear to be so). The girls will take you up on the challenge, and you say “Which shampoo do you use?” The two girls will ALWAYS look at each other before answering, and before they can answer you say “STOP. I don’t need to hear your answer, I already know that you two are close/best friends.” (How?) “Well, the first thing you did when I asked the question was, you looked at each other before answering. If you two weren’t close, one or both of you would’ve just looked straight at me and answered right away.”
(In case she’s joined by a male companion) "Hey, I was just asking her opinion on something and maybe both of you guys can help me on this..." Use an opinion opener. Then do a cold read on both of them. Tell the guy that he seems like he’d rather be sipping a beer, sitting on the beach somewhere, just kicking back.
(In case she’s joined by a male companion) "Hey, I was just asking her opinion on something and maybe both of you guys can help me on this..." Use an opinion opener. Then do a cold read on both of them. Tell the guy that he seems like he’d rather be sipping a beer, sitting on the beach somewhere, just kicking back.
“So how do you all like me so far?”
“You know what…I LOVE you guys…you guys are the best…I'm adopting you guys…you guys rock”(patronizing comment that can be applied to the whole group)
Adopt them as your rock band groupies “When I’m dirty and sweaty after a rock show, and my hair smells like smoke, you guys are gonna have to scrub me down in the shower. It’s what groupies do.”
“What I really need is a chick who will support me…You know, a rich girl. Are any of you rich? Do you know anyone who’s rich?” (they’ll name someone) “NICE... I’ll be her boytoy…and then I can have affairs with you guys on the side…”
“You know what…I LOVE you guys…you guys are the best…I'm adopting you guys…you guys rock”(patronizing comment that can be applied to the whole group)
Adopt them as your rock band groupies “When I’m dirty and sweaty after a rock show, and my hair smells like smoke, you guys are gonna have to scrub me down in the shower. It’s what groupies do.”
“What I really need is a chick who will support me…You know, a rich girl. Are any of you rich? Do you know anyone who’s rich?” (they’ll name someone) “NICE... I’ll be her boytoy…and then I can have affairs with you guys on the side…”
If there’s a guy in the group, tease them about being lesbians and having a guy hang out with them just to have a cover. They’ll laugh and insist they’re not lesbians. "Too bad, cause you know that’s men's #1 fantasy... What do you think women's #1 fantasy is?" (If they don’t know) "I can't really tell you, I have to show you so you can experience it (move in very close to the one closest to you). It’s to have adventure and danger with someone strong and powerful and it feels like THIS” (reach your hand up behind the closest girl’s head and pull her hair).
14. Storytelling
Telling an interesting and humorous story about something that happened to you demonstrates value. You show that you have an interesting and fun life, as well as some interesting experiences in your past.
It’s important not to brag when telling a story. You want to DISPLAY value, not parade it. If there’s something in your story that could be considered of value to the girl, mention it matter-of-factly as a necessary part of the story. For example, let’s say the girl tells you she’s just learning to ski, and you just happen to be a ski instructor. The wrong way to go about this would be to say “I’m a ski instructor” and sit back proudly waiting for an ooh-ahh reaction. Instead, use a story to convey it in a nonchalant way. “That’s cool…I remember when I started…Haha…Hey I was teaching some skiing lessons last winter and we had this 400-pound man in the group who was determined to learn how to ski…Of course he got about 10 feet down the hill before he wiped out. The guy nearly triggered an avalanche! It took 3 people to get him on the stretcher at the bottom of the hill, and when they loaded him into the ambulance…it sagged!”
When storytelling, use your voice tone, facial expressions, and body language to accentuate the story. This makes for entertaining storytelling. For example, when saying “this 400-pound man” in the story above, a good storyteller would open his eyes wide and spread has arms and say “this FOUR…HUNDRED…POUND…MAN!!”
Have 2 or 3 interesting stories off the top of your head that you can bring up at any time to liven up a conversation. Fluff talk will usually provide plenty of opportunities to segue into one of your stories, but if not, you can always use a philosophical point to transition into a story. In the case of the story above: “You know, it’s funny how some people are so determined to do something that they don’t realize their limitations”.
15. Directing the conversation to sexual themes
The fastest way to get a woman horny is to get her talking about sex. If you tell a woman “Think about sex and get aroused” you’ll most likely be either laughed at or get slapped. But by simply indulging in hot conversation you can get her juices flowing (no pun intended) and accomplish the same goal. She may even get to the point where she feels she HAS to have sex. And who will she do that with? If you’ve been doing a proper job attracting her with the techniques presented here, it’ll be you! Even if she doesn’t have intimate relations with you that very night, you’ve shown her that you’re a sexual person who’s confident about the topic. She’ll also link those horny feelings to you, which will be useful for later dates.
In any interaction there'll be a proper time to turn the conversation towards sex. Often the woman will leave a wide-open window for you to comment sexually on something, and may be waiting for you to be the initiator of sex-talk (due to the ASD, "anti-slut defense"--it was YOUR fault!)
Clifford, Clifford's Seduction Newsletter (Cliff’s List): "One thing I have noticed is that a lot of women will kind of recoil when you say something a bit too sexual and then, if you pursue it with no apologies, they spring back very positively about the comment. It doesn't happen all the time, and certainly depends on the comment itself, but many women do respond to sexual comments after an initial, politically correct reaction."
Once you broach the topic of sex, get into it gradually before getting into heavy stuff. Here are some things you can start off with:
1) Tell her about how your female co-workers always talk about their sex lives.
2) “Do you have any sex-crazed friends?”. At some point after her answer, ask “Are YOU sex-crazed?” If she says no, “Not even a little?” If she needs a little goading into the subject, say “Awww you disappoint me!” If she’s seeking your approval/wants to be liked this could entice her to get talking about sex.
Once you’re successfully on the topic, fire away:
An example of a line to use in a conversation. "You need to let loose and have some FUN. When was the last time you had an orgasm? I really think you need to find a guy right now... and let him bend you over the bathroom sink and let him have his way with you."
Look for sexual innuendo in everything, and use it to accuse her of trying to seduce you before you even know her. If she says "Well, I'm getting tired, and I think it's time for bed" say "Bed? I mean, I don't even know if you know how to kiss... and you're trying to get me into bed? What happened to the old days where you could make friends first?"
"Hey I'm forming a club: --People who think of sex all day Anonymous-- Wanna join? Most meetings will probably degenerate into big orgies.....but we'll TRY to keep things under control" (if yes): "Well membership is limited, you'll have to PROVE you're worthy of membership. How horny are you?" (if no): "Well it's probably best if you don't join, we need really horny people in the group, and I don't think you'd cut it"
"If your life was a movie, what would it be rated? PG? PG-13?" (gives answer) "No X? How far away do you think you are from an X rating?" (answer) "Well, who knows? Maybe someone (subtly self-point) will jump into your life and make it an X rated movie."
"I'm not good for you. I can only promise you HOURS AND HOURS of pleasure. You need MORE than that. You need a nice guy [point to random guy] who'll give you flowers, dinners, gifts. Me, I'll just CORRUPT you."
If she mentions on the phone that she's getting all hot and bothered, say "Hey, stop trying to trick me into phone sex. I'm not that easy!"
"Wow, you wear a ring on THIS finger? You know what that says about you?" (No) "Have you ever had sex in an elevator?" (Laughs, NO) "Well you should try it sometime!"
"Do you know what women's #1 fantasy is?" (They won't know) "I can't really tell you, I have to SHOW you so you can experience it [move in very close]. It's to have adventure and danger with someone strong and powerful and it feels like this" [reach behind her head and pull her hair]. (If she shows "goose bumps" reaction, which she should) "Oh I'm sorry, did I turn you into a quivering, horny mess?"
"What's your favorite ice cream?" (answer) "(repeat answer?) And what's your favorite part of your body to have it eaten off of?"
If she's the one to bring up sexual topics, accuse her of being a big old PERV for always having sex on her mind. Say to her: “I was trying to have an intellectual conversation, but you have to turn everything into sex! What a sinner! You're gonna burn in hell.”
If she brings up the idea of sex between the two of you: "I can’t sleep with you…I don’t even know if you’re a good kisser yet! And maybe you’re a 3-minute woman, with no staying power! I need someone that lasts!"
“I love the way you spread your legs when you sit...only everything would look so much better to me if you were wearing a short dress and no panties."
"What's the craziest place you've ever had sex?" Be sure to have a damn good answer to this yourself, since she'll ask it right back.
"I don't look for one-nighters. A one night stand only means I didn't enjoy it enough to repeat it."
"Have you ever given into temptation BIGTIME? NOT necessarily in a sexual context...Unless of course you feel like answering in that context!"
If she reacts badly to taking the conversation into sexual territory: "Oh, you're a GOOD GIRL...Can I have some of your righteousness? I’m a SINNER.”
Bringing out bisexuality in a woman
After a bit of sex talk you can bring up the topic of bisexuality. There are several ways to do this:
Asking: “What kind of girls do you like?” Direct and to the point. Don’t fall into the trap of asking “Are you bisexual?” most women hate the label and will say no, even if they find women sexually appealing.
Joking: “So have you met any interesting guys here yet? No? Oh, so you’re here to meet GIRLS then?”
Teasing: She mentions she drives a [car brand]: “I’ve heard that [car brand] are owned more by lesbians than any other group.” (laughs if she’s not a bitch) "So, are you going to get a rainbow sticker for the back?" She’ll claim she’s not a lesbian. “Ok good, so I won’t see you at the gay parade with a shaved head and combat boots. What about just liking girls? Do you?”
Once the topic has been brought up and you’re engaged in conversation about it, you can continue with this:
"I like bisexual women the most, because they're more OPEN. They're more fun, and they're better in bed. They're more adventurous, and comfortable with their own sexuality. They realize that women are sexual beings." If the woman feels she has to prove herself to you and win you over, after hearing this she'll probably drop subtle or overt hints that she's attracted to women. Once she does this, she has to follow through later to be CONGRUENT. More convincing needed? "Also, they don't get jealous if you look at other women. In fact, they're usually the ones that notice them first! And without those jealousies in a relationship, it makes it much easier to be open and honest, to be friends as well as lovers, and to really be able to connect."
If she reveals to you that she's bisexual: "Oh, I can sympathize completely. Women are beautiful creatures, so I don't blame you for being attracted to them!" (blah blah) "You know, TECHNICALLY, I'm a lesbian!"
Ask her if she likes guys or girls more. If she admits to liking girls but says that she likes men more, say “Exactly! You like girls but you still need some deep dicking!”
When you ask a girl if she's bisexual, she'll probably ask if YOU are:
HER: Are you?
YOU: No.
HER: Why not?
YOU: Because it's not natural with men. For women it's natural.
HER: Explain, blah, blah.
YOU: It's yin and yang, basically. Men are YANG energy, dominant, confrontational, and two YANG energies don't mix. When you see gay couples for example, you'll never see two dominant males together. You always see either a dominant male and a feminine, submissive male, or two submissive males together. Women are YIN energy, it's a sexually nurturing energy. But in our culture it's repressed, mostly.
Sex talk in groupsets
Because of the safety-in-numbers factor, it’s far easier to bring up the topic of sex with a group. Women are used to talking about sex amongst each other, and they’ll be comfortable discussing it around a guy who’s befriended the group. Once the topic has come up, ask blunt, bold questions for shock value. Examples:
“Ok, who sitting at this table has ever had sex with another woman?”
“Show of hands! Has anybody here had sex in an airplane? No? What about a bus? No? Geez this is one TAME bunch…Okay what about the backseat of a car? ANY form of transportation??”
“Which one of you is the easiest?”
During the discussion you may see that one of them is participating less than the others or may be acting a bit shy. Point her out with “You’re not talking much. You’re the GOOD GIRL of the group, aren’t you? You need to find a guy to bend you over the bathroom sink and have his way with you!” Turn to her friends and say “We’ve gotta get this girl LAID!” If this C&F theme goes over well, continue it. Point out guys going by and whisper to her (so that everybody can hear) “Hey what about him?” etc.
“What’s the difference between making love, sex, and fucking?” (blah blah blah blah, let them talk) "Here’s how I see it: MAKING LOVE is this deep connection where it’s more about emotion than the physical… SEX is what you do after a long hard day and you just NEED to get off, but it’s no biggie... And FUCKING is raw, powerful, and feels like this (run your hand up the back of the hair of the girl closest to you, then pull her hair. She’ll squirm and say something about goose bumps or whatever). Take that feeling and multiply it 100 times. That’s fucking.”
16. Projecting sexual state
This technique is best used after other attraction techniques. It involves adopting a sexual state, and then projecting it onto the woman. You need to OOZE sex, and have it show in the way you talk, move, and look at her. You could be talking about the weather, but your bedroom eyes, voice tone, and body language are communicating that you want her, and that you know she wants you!
The reason this works is because human beings tend to subconsciously mirror people they like. If you build rapport with her and she’s having fun, she’ll begin to match your state, whatever it may be. This is explained further in the section on Rapport.
17. Establishing dominance and dealing with shit-tests
Women test men for all sorts of reasons, and it’s mostly an unconscious process. Attractive women have a lot of options, and prefer men who are STRONG OF CHARACTER. If you were an attractive woman being chased by hundreds of guys, how would you go about eliminating the losers? You’d TEST them, in subtle ways that test for strength and personality. If you did this on a regular enough basis, this behavior would become unconscious and automatic.
Women will ALWAYS test you! Deal with it, learn how to handle it, and move on.
The more attracted a woman is to a man, the more she’ll test him. Women don’t go up to 90 year-old men and say “You jerk!” and playfully punch them in the arm. They don’t go up to some horribly disfigured guy in a wheelchair and say “You think you’re hot shit, don’t you?” They do this to the men they’re attracted to! A woman is usually nice and polite with people she’s not attracted to, as social conventions dictate her to be. In fact, if a woman is being polite and overly nice with you, it’s a bad sign. But if she’s testing you by calling you a jerk or an ass, it’s a sign that you’ve aroused some interest in her, and she wants to see if it’s justified.
How do you know a woman is testing you? When her lips are moving! Seriously, the way to know when a woman is testing you is to look at how whatever she’s saying or doing is making you feel. Anytime her words or actions make you feel put on the spot/challenged and forced to do or say something about it, you’re being tested. Any time she seems to be attempting to take the lead (“Call me on Thursday and I’ll let you know if I can accept your offer for a date on Friday”), it’s probably a test.
It's important to know how to deal with feminine testing. This is one of the BASICS: Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you as a PAWN. You MUST retain control and be the MAN.
Most tests can be dealt with just by ignoring them. You DO NOT have to take every communication seriously and respond to it. So if a test is given (let’s say she calls you a jerk), you can just smirk and go on and act as if it had never been said, and continue your conversation. The same principle can be applied when someone is getting overly emotional or dramatic with you. Continue as usual (applying humor in testing situations can be effective as well). To illustrate how ignoring a test works, here’s an example of a real interaction I had with a HB and her friend in her living room. The conversation centered around how much of a player she was in clubs, and how badly she treated the guys who tried to pick her up.
OFB: (To HB) *I* could pick you up REALLY easily in a club. I have the perfect pick-up line.
HB: (in disbelief) Oh, really?
OFB: First, I’d make eye contact with you from across the room. Then I’d smile and walk over to you…
HB: Who says I’d look at you?
OFB: Then I’d look you in the eyes, and brush your hair away from your ear…
HB: HELLO, “personal space”, no way I’d let you do that!
Friend: Yeah, no way.
OFB: Then I’d lean in and whisper in your ear that perfect pick-up line (LONG PAUSE, then wicked smile as I put on my best “bedroom voice”) --I HAVE HAGEN-DAAS CARAMEL ICE CREAM IN MY FREEZER--
HB: HAHAHAHA!!! That would work! And if it was cookie-dough ice cream, I’d be at your place before you!
Look at the dynamics of that conversation. Despite her shit-testing me 3 times in 30 seconds (with a contribution from her friend), I just plowed through and didn’t even acknowledge her objections/tests. It worked and in the end, got a very favorable response. By the way, this is a great routine to use with any “playerette”. Find out early in the conversation what chocolate or ice cream she’s crazy about, then eventually get onto the subject of her playing guys at clubs. Then use this routine, plugging in her favorite sweet thing where it belongs. The beauty of this is that she’s CERTAIN to test you after your first statement, since no woman will ever admit to being an easy pickup. And because you were the one to set up the test, you’re completely ready to ignore her shit-tests and plow through (the toughest shit-tests are the ones that catch you off-guard).
Another way of dealing with tests is to PRE-EMPT the test! If you see her talking with a lot of guys, say “You’re such a player! Look at you.” Or if she talks to you about doing something together say “What makes you think I’d WANT to hang out with you?” (In fact, most C&F comments are in fact tests. If you see she loses her cool, she failed your test). The reason this is effective is that you steal the testing frame first. When she tries to test you in retaliation, she’s doing it from a position of weakness and her tests will seem like feeble attempts to regain power…Which they are.
Another approach: At the first sign of a shit-test, SPANK her and call her a brat. It's not appropriate in all situations, but occasionally you can get away with it (especially if you two are alone).
If a woman tests you by talking about other guys she’s involved with, or approaches another guy in front of you: Tell her how much you want her to be with other guys, how humans are not supposed to be together forever, all of that. PUSH HER on whatever guy she brings up (to try to make you jealous), and recommend that she fuck him. If she shit-tests you back with "You don't care about me" say "I'm the only guy you've ever met who cares ENOUGH to give you your freedom." This is called “prescribing the symptom" -- take any behavior you don't like and tell her to DO IT MORE.
Shit test response: "Where'd you get that one, Cosmo or Seventeen?"
When a woman wants you to do something for her or buy her something: "OK, I'll make you a deal. I'll do X if you give me a 1 hour massage with hot oil, nice music, and candles." Remember to use a cocky/funny tone of voice, but be serious.
(I hate it when you tease me) "So why do you look at me with such pouting desire when I do it?"
Don’t apologize for anything. This doesn’t mean being an arse, but show that you’re defying her criticism. “I don’t like that shirt.” “Fine, take it off me.”
If a woman tries to get you back for a C&F comment: “If only you were as cute as your comeback”
(Are you a player?) "Well I like playing WITH you" (then give her a little pat on the butt, or touch her somewhere more intimate if you’ve already had sex)
Some more examples of shit-tests and replies:
• You bring up sex. She says “You’re SUCH a perv!” You say “You’re SUCH a prude! I’ll bet you’re an annoying good-girl.”
• You make a C&F comment. She says “You’re SUCH a jerk!” Reply: “You’re such an EASY target!”
• You admit you like computers. She says “You’re SUCH a nerd!” You say “I’m the first person you’ll call when your computer crashes!”
A good example of a reply to any “You’re SUCH a _______” statement test is to smile and say “You LOVE me.”
(You’re so ________ ) “So THAT’s why you like me so much! Ohhhh…”
Another example of an excellent comeback against a test on something about you, or a “You’re SUCH a ______” comment is “Awww, isn’t that cute, you have an opinion!”
If she complains or doesn’t like something, turn it up and give it back to her. She says “I don’t like that station”, you turn it up a notch and smile at her. You don’t have to be an ass, you can turn it back down after. But just show that you aren’t easily controlled, and are independent of what she thinks.
Always raise and call her bluff. If a woman gives you some tension or tests you, call her on it. “I’m leaving, that’s it” “Ok. Don’t let the door hit you ass on the way out”. In most cases she wasn’t planning to follow through—it was a TEST.
“Buy me a drink” Shit-Test Responses
This is a fairly common situation out on the bar and club scene. It goes like this: Woman meets guy, gets interested in him, then shit-tests him with a request for a drink to see if he’ll do whatever she says.
In dealing with this, keep in mind that you do NOT owe a woman anything. NEVER open a woman at a bar, lounge, or club with “Can I buy you a drink?” It indicates that you’re a supplicating man who feels he has to buy a woman’s attention with material objects, and says all the wrong things in that it shows you’re ASKING for her time (never ask for anything, remember). You have to keep the mindset that no matter how beautiful she may be, her looks don’t get her a free ride, or a free anything for that matter. Your frame is that YOU are evaluating HER. If you’re using the techniques and openers outlined in this program, you should already have proven yourself worthy of her attention without needing to buy your way into her social circle.
Sometimes a woman will ask for a drink not to test you, but just because she’s greedy and wants to sucker you into buying her a free drink. In this case a refusal to buy her one will weed her out right away, so you really have nothing to lose by refusing the request.
I’m not saying it’s wrong to buy a woman drinks at all times. Obviously after you’ve talked with her for a while and you approve of her, it’s cool to call the bartender over and order for her. Do this on your own and take the lead, without prompting from her or asking on your part. Don’t ask her what she wants to drink—either order another of what she’s already drinking, or order some distinctive drink to show you have some culture.
Here are some responses to the “Buy me a drink” shit-test:
Her: "Will you buy me a drink?"
You: "No. But you can buy ME a drink "
Her (thinking "Argh… Gmph… He didn't supplicate! Could this be… a real man? What's this, I'm getting wet??"): "Am… um… Yes!"
OR:
You: "No. But you can buy ME a drink "
Her (thinking "Argh… Gmph… He didn't supplicate! Could this be… a real man? What's this, I'm getting wet??"): "Am… um… Yes!"
OR:
Her: "Will you buy me a drink?"
You: "Give me a French kiss."
(NOTE that the tongue play must be an explicit part of the bargain up front. None of this peck on the lips BULLSHIT, because you’re still supplicating if you settle for that. Here's the beautiful part: If she says no, now SHE is the person who said "no" in the situation, instead of you! You don't have to be the "jerk" for turning her down. If she says yes, tongue-action and kino/touching right away. Then get her a drink as a reward. Note that she will probably demure before caving in, and this is your chance to show personality and be playful. Go C&F on her right away!) Accessory phrases: "You aren't uptight are you? Don't you go out to have fun? We're having fun!" OR "You like cool guys don't you?" OR "It's not HOT SEX or anything...just a little kiss!"
You: "Give me a French kiss."
(NOTE that the tongue play must be an explicit part of the bargain up front. None of this peck on the lips BULLSHIT, because you’re still supplicating if you settle for that. Here's the beautiful part: If she says no, now SHE is the person who said "no" in the situation, instead of you! You don't have to be the "jerk" for turning her down. If she says yes, tongue-action and kino/touching right away. Then get her a drink as a reward. Note that she will probably demure before caving in, and this is your chance to show personality and be playful. Go C&F on her right away!) Accessory phrases: "You aren't uptight are you? Don't you go out to have fun? We're having fun!" OR "You like cool guys don't you?" OR "It's not HOT SEX or anything...just a little kiss!"
Her: "I need a drink"
You: "Ok, go get one, and while you're up there, grab me a rum and coke."
18. Dealing with poor behavior
Don’t be shy about ejecting from a set or leaving on a date if the woman continues being a bitch or head case with no sign of letting up. If necessary, stop and step back. Excuse yourself from the set, get off the phone, or go to walk away, and say “You know, this really isn’t working for me anymore. I think I’m just going to bring you home, and go relax.”
Emotional Outbursts
Responding to outbursts: "So what am I going to get paid for babysitting tonight?" OR "Did this stuff work on your daddy? Why didn't he spank you more?" OR “Does acting like this ALWAYS let you get your way? Or only with the spineless guys?”
Or make fun of her silly behavior: "Awww isn't that cute, you getting all upset like that." OR "Wow you've really got this upset thing down to an art form. Does it work well with other people?" OR "Ya know, you're kinda cute when you're mad." OR "If you keep acting like a brat I'm gonna SPANK you like one."
Flaking out
"Flaking out" is when a girl doesn't show up for a date, or gives you a bogus number. Basically it means letting you down and wasting your time.
So if hopes were high (you hit it off well, she gave you her number etc, any signals of possible interest you might have received from her will do) but now she seems to have disappeared, show that you’re not cool with that behavior, and only because you saw some potential for the two of you are you willing to give her one last chance. But if she dares to do it again, its bye-bye and blam!! Door-slam time. Guys with a lot of options, or with few options who put a high value on their own time, will probably not even give a woman who pulled such crap a second chance.
The only voicemail/answering machine message you should ever leave: "Hi [girls name]. This is [my name]. I wanted to let you know how disappointed I was that you didn't call me back. But, since I saw so much potential for us I thought I would give you one last chance. So why don't you give me a call."
Some "flake prevention" ideas
1) Don't make plans too far in advance. Try not to make plans more than 24 hours in advance. Why? Because YOU'RE BUSY. If she wants your attention, she'd better be ready to accept any time you find that you can free up. And she'd better be there. Shorter time frames also make for fewer opportunities for other things to "come up". If you make plans 5 days in advance, ALL KINDS of things can come up. If you make plans 5 HOURS in advance, you have a much better chance of things happening.
2) Always talk about when you're busy before you talk about when you're available. Two to one is a good rule of thumb. "I'm busy tonight, and I can't do it Thursday. Let's get together tomorrow afternoon around 4... but I only have a couple hours, so don't be late."
3) Don't say things like "I can do it anytime" or "I'll make time for you whenever you want". This kind of thing just TELEGRAPHS the message that you're chasing her, you want her approval, etc. and that you're too AVAILABLE.
4) Give her the gift of missing you. Don't call her all the time. Don't always bug her to get together. Don't always call her back when she calls you. In other words, have your own life.
Finally, make sure she knows that it's NOT OK to be flaky with you. This takes some guts when you're dealing with an attractive woman that you like. It's not always the easiest thing to say "Wasting my time and changing plans at the last minute isn't OK with me...even if your best friend is upset tonight because her cat is having a mental breakdown." But it must be done.
If she flakes out, remember these magic words: “HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT UP TO ME?”. And as a last resort... if the problem keeps coming up with a woman, you might have to use the secret weapon:
--PROBATION--
Just say "OK, well you're now on probation. No more making plans in advance with you. If you want to see me, you can call me and ask what I'm doing right then. If I'm free, I'll see you, but you've wasted too much of my time, and I'm not going to make plans with someone who can't keep them." Then, when she asks to make plans, say on Friday, just say to her "Well, maybe. You can call me then and see if I'm free. But you're on probation now for being flaky, so no advance plans with you." Harsh? Maybe. But if YOU don't respect your own time and put value on it, then how do you expect anyone else to?
Ironically, even though these ideas might sound a little bit too extreme... and like they might scare a woman away, exactly the opposite is true. If you do these things, women will typically be MORE attracted to you, because you're acting like a MAN WHO RESPECTS HIMSELF.
If you DON'T do this stuff, she'll probably drift away from you, and you won't even realize why it's happening.
Another way to prevent flaky behavior is this: At the appropriate place and time, SHOW YOUR ANGER...In a mature way. Guys who never get mad, who never show that they will stand up for themselves and make a woman feel a bit of unpleasantness are, in effect, giving themselves away for free!! Let the females in your life know that if they break your rules, cross you, or show any lack of respect that THEY ARE GOING TO PAY A PRICE! Always look for “respect opportunities” and call women on their bullshit. Be firm and sincere. If you sense that a woman is "testing" you by being difficult, trying to change plans with you on short notice all the time, etc. then RELAX. Lean back. Never let her "get away" with anything just because she's beautiful, or let her have any "special privileges" because you like her. NEVER. When she does something you disapprove of, call her on it. Tell her that you won't put up with that shit and not to do it again. NEVER forget you were born without her. And that there are a hundreds more like her and thousands more that are even better than her.
One Tactic
YOU: Don't ever (bad behavior) again, ok? I'll always treat you respectfully, but I expect the same from you.
HER: Uh… uh… yes.
YOU: Good. Let's see you make it up to me.
And at this point grab her and kiss her passionately. If you can, try to turn this into a sex close right then and there. Why give her an evening on the town and reward her rotten behavior? You have nothing to lose at this point.
Disrespecting you can also be an extreme and immature form of testing you, if the woman likes you at first but wants to determine your worthiness or lack of worthiness. She'll be testing you in order to find out whether you are a supplicating taking-all-her-shit pussyboy or a man with self-control and the ability to take charge.
In order to pass such an extreme test (an example of which is canceling a date), you must:
In order to pass such an extreme test (an example of which is canceling a date), you must:
1. Show that you don't lose your temper over it.
2. Show that you don't whine like a baby over it.
3. Show that it doesn't really phase you.
4. Show that you DO find it disrespectful and that you don't tolerate that.
(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that (1,2,3) are true!
(4) is the most important point, but you MUST do it in such a way that (1,2,3) are true!
Of course, if a woman does test you in this disrespectful way, you should seriously re-evaluate your interest in her.
Apologizing
What happens when YOU are the one who showed shitty behavior? First off, NEVER say you’re sorry unless you very obviously fucked up. Move through life without apology.
If you MUST apologize to disarm a woman's negative state, make humor out of it by taking a step back, IF it’s appropriate. An example of a one step forward, one step back apology: "You women are nuts!" (She gets pissed) "I'm sorry.......................I'm sorry that women are nuts!!"
19. Disarming obstacles
“Obstacles” are other people who get in the way of your opening or attraction of your target. There are generally three types of possible obstacles: Your own entourage, the target’s friends, and other alpha males. You must learn to deal with these obstacles skilfully while remaining cool. Doing this properly will increase attraction in your target’s eyes, since she’ll see that you’re cool in social situations. Doing it wrong will definitely kill the attraction. If you’re mean to her friends for example, they’ll dissuade her from hooking up with you. And if you get blown out of the set by another guy showing you up, you’ll look like a dork. Remember, in Tyler’s words “the only rule of pickup is to be visibly cooler than the chick”. If you don’t come across properly when dealing with obstacles and don’t maintain your “cool status”, you’ll demonstrate low social value. Obstacles are sometimes known by their slang term, “cockblocks”.
Your own entourage
Unless you surround yourself with a skilled wingman or wingmen, the company you keep is a potential obstacle to your pickup and attraction efforts. Here are some situations where your pick-up can be spoiled by your own entourage:
THE GRASS CUTTER: Cutting your grass is when a member of your entourage moves in on a woman you’ve opened. Once you’ve done the hard work of opening the target and getting her into a good state, the grasscutter will move into the set, introduce himself as your friend for social proof, and then start gaming your target. Part of his game may involve comments to cut you down, in an effort to make himself seem superior (to “out-alpha” you). ANTIDOTE: The wrong way to do it is to get in an argument with him right there. Instead, cut him out of the set using anti-AMOG tactics (described below), and don’t invite him out with you again. If you have no choice (he invites himself along or is a Siamese twin of a good friend of yours in the group), then try to ditch him and go to another part of the venue, where he won’t see you opening targets.
THE THIRD WHEEL: When you move into set, a good wingman will move in and use his own material to occupy the rest of the group while you game your target. But sometimes you may be hanging out with a great, fun friend (who just happens to be lousy with women) at the time you spot your target, and he just tags along while you open them. What ends up happening is that since your buddy has no game, he just sort of hangs there boring everybody, or makes stupid comments, both of which make you look bad (“the company you keep”). ANTIDOTE: The wrong way to deal with this problem is to just let your friend sit there, making things worse. There are several ways to deal with this. You can tell your buddy “Wait here one second”, go in solo, do a quick number-close, and get out saying “I need to get back to my buddy” (In fact, having a friend waiting is sometimes a great time constraint that works in your favour). Another way to prevent the Third Wheel Effect (if your friend comes into set with you) is to constantly talk up your buddy, saying what a great guy he is, how he’s crazy sometimes, etc. You’re basically substituting for your friend’s lack of game. Also, by inflating his sense of value, you’ll put him at ease and he may start to relax and open up. This is extra work of course, seeing as how you have to entertain the group, demonstrate value to the target, AND talk up your friend, but it beats getting blown out of the set.
THE DRUNK: Sometimes a friend who’s normally cool can become a total chauvinistic ass with a few drinks in him, and threaten your game. This happened to me in Cuba several years ago. I’d been hanging out with a group of Italian guys who were cool for most of the week, but on this last night there they’d had way too much to drink. I was gaming on the cutest Cuban girl I’d seen all week outside the resort’s nightclub, using teasing and flirting, and her buying temperature was high. Just when things were getting good, one of the gang starts yelling out “GO FOR IT! POUND FUCKING POUND!! NAIL HER MIKE! NAIL HER!” over and over. I tried to ignore him and keep the game on, but it was obvious that it was making her uncomfortable and she excused herself. Not knowing how to handle it at the time, I lost out. Now, The Drunk intrusion isn’t necessarily only limited to cat-calls; it can also involve a drunken member of your entourage pushing his way into your set and cavemanning your target, or feeling her up inappropriately—both of which will ruin her state and kill your game. ANTIDOTE: If The Drunk intrudes, isolate your target from the group with “Let’s go talk over there, there’s too many drunken jerks in this spot”. Physically lead her to another area, then say “There! Much quieter” and continue your conversation. OR, if she’d been grabbed, say “Ok, no one’s gonna grab you over here. But I might just SPANK you if you don’t behave!” (smile). Another idea, simple enough: DON’T HANG OUT WITH DRUNKS! And if you do happen to be out with some friends who eventually become drunk and rowdy, simply detach yourself from them and game targets outside of cat-call range, or preferably out of sight.
The target’s friends
When gaming a set, it’s important to befriend the target’s friend(s). Her peers have a huge say in swaying her opinion of you, so you MUST make them like you. ENGAGE the group. Get everyone involved to avoid one or more becoming a cockblock. This means including the ugly girls of the group in the interaction too. If they feel ignored they’ll be bitter and try to sabotage your efforts, either in front of you or after you’ve left the set. One thing you have to be careful about is giving a non-target TOO much attention. If you talk up the ugly girl to befriend her, the actual target may leave you two alone since she sees you hitting it off so well. Try to balance your attention so as to keep your target involved in the interaction.
Despite your best efforts to make everybody feel a whole lotta love, one thing a target’s friends WILL do is test you. When they see their friend getting all doe-eyed over you and getting carried away, they may test you in her place. Some may have malicious intent in doing this, as explained above, but usually they’re just looking out for their friend. You can deal with this as you do with regular tests one-on-one, but here are some specific “cockblock-destroyers”:
(girl tries to pull her friend away from you) “What are you??? The drag-away friend??”
(girl whines and complains or tests you hard) Turn to target and say “Is she always like this? How do you roll with her?” OR “Is your friend always such a brat?”
(girl bombards you with questions to put you on the spot) “You’re very investigative. You’re like Nancy Drew.” Call her Nancy from then on!
(girl gives you a shit test, like “You dress funny” etc) Respond by completely ignoring her comment and asking her “Are you a player?” If she pouts or mouths back, call her a “Drama Queen”.
(girl shit-tests you) Say “Hey, I’m talking” and then continue without responding to the shit test. Or just say “Cute” and keep going. Dismissiveness can be an effective tool.
Occasionally you’ll run into a set where there are a male friend or two. A target’s male friends are known as the “Beta males” (because if they were Alpha, they wouldn’t just be “friends” now, would they?) If your target is attractive, odds are that the male “friend” is just there because he got the “Let’s just be FRIENDS” speech. He’s hanging out with her as her friend, but secretly he’s still after her, and hopes by hanging around her and displaying what a great guy he is, she’ll eventually come around. Because of this, the male friend is often more of a cockblock threat than the female ones. This means it’s vitally important to befriend the Beta male. If you set up the frame that you’re his good buddy, he’ll be more reluctant to cockblock you, either on the spot or after you’ve left the set (since good buddies don’t cockblock each other). The last thing you want is for him to see you as just some anonymous jerk trying to screw his beloved princess, and for him to feel the need to protect her from you.
Befriending him is the Good Cop approach. The opposite (but more risky) way to deal with Betas is to present yourself as the total opposite of her male friend (to whom she’s not attracted). Let’s say C&F is in play with your target and Mr. Beta says something like “Oh, he doesn’t mean it” to the target. You say “Of course I mean it!” Treat him as you would an AMOG and blow his wimpy ass out of the set with AMOG destroyer tactics (more on these below). In general, it’s good to play it safe and treat every male obstacle as an AMOG at first anyway. Once you’ve ascertained that the friend is a Beta, THEN you can shift gears and befriend him. “Sorry about busting your balls earlier bro, I thought you were being rude to me but I realize now you were just looking out for your friend”.
Once you’re in set with the girl and trying to isolate her: “Nice talking to you Fred, but Marie and I were just going out on the balcony to talk in private.” If the Beta starts following you around like a lost puppy, say (nicely) “Hey Fred, looks like we need to get you hooked up with one of the girls here at the party so you don’t have to follow us around. Anyone spark your interest?”
Other alpha males (AMOGs)
One thing you’ll eventually have to contend with while picking up is the Alpha-Male, Other Guy (AMOG). The AMOG is basically your competition. Someone with decent game, looks, money, muscles, etc. or any combination of these. In other words, someone who’s a potential threat to your success with the target.
A note on fighting
Don’t worry about it. Unless you’re in a biker bar or some Tijuana shithole, the odds are miniscule that an AMOG will fight you over a girl. Usually deflating him using AMOG destroyers will be enough to blow him out of the set and leave you alone. Losing his cool and fighting you over her will just make him look bad in her eyes and worsen his already bleak chances, and he knows it. In fact, most people will go to great lengths to avoid a fight. Not only do they run the risk of getting their asses kicked or badly injured, they also risk getting roughed up by the bouncers throwing them out, spending a night in jail, sitting in court, the stigma of a criminal record, and maybe even prison time or a fine.
There are two exceptions to this though: The first is the mean drunk. A mean drunk is usually extremely short-sighted and won’t care how stupid he looks in front of the target. All he’ll care about is kicking your ass for moving in on “his” girl (even though chances are he acted like an idiot anyway while he engaged her). The best thing to do when a drunk is involved is to NOT use AMOG destroyers on him. Instead, wait until he blows it and/or the girl gets fed up of his constant pawing and beer breath. Once he walks away (or gets carried away by club security), move in and feel free to use the situation as part of your opener. Something like “That guy was grabbing you everywhere! Don’t you feel like you need a shower now?”
The other exception is the criminal kingpin. The big drug dealers, gang members, and mobsters tend to like their women hot. So if you make a habit of approaching and flirting with hot women, you run the risk of eventually gaming one of their “trophies” at some point. The good news is that these types go to great lengths to avoid run-ins with the law, so they won’t do anything rash (like have you crippled or shot) when they see you talking with their girl. What they’ll do is have someone (or several someones) come up to you and give you a fair warning. Do yourself a favor and heed it; there are plenty of other women in the world you don’t have to risk your health for. You might think this would never happen to you, but I was in a situation a couple years ago where I made contact with a STUNNING Venezuelan woman on the Internet. She was a hostess at Montreal’s most popular strip club, which happened to be part-owned by a Montreal mob figure’s son...who happened to have been involved with her until just before we met, I eventually found out. She kept inviting me to come meet her at the club when the guy wasn’t around, but no way was I getting involved there. The last thing I needed was a connected family member coming in and seeing me gaming his recent ex-girlfriend. If you find yourself in a similar situation, consider the possible consequences and do the smart thing.
Anti-AMOG Tactics
Tactic #1:
The quickest and cleanest way to blow an AMOG out of a set is to pelt him with friendly, logical, interview-type questions to make him look BORING. Here’s how it works: The Alpha male comes into the set, all confident and cocky and funny. He’s using teasing, flirting, funny stories, and other tools to get her attracted. The girl gets into state. Then YOU show up, and start asking him “Hey bro, so where are you from?” “Oh cool, how’d you get downtown?” “Oh, what kind of car do you drive?” “That’s a nice car. Did you have trouble finding parking?” ETC ETC ETC. Eventually the target falls out of state, since everything coming out of the guy’s mouth is now BORING, logical answers, the kind of stuff that doesn’t get her revved up emotionally. She’s now a clean slate, and all the AMOG’s work to get her into state is ruined. To top it off, now YOU are the dominant male, because you’re controlling the conversation (even if only by asking boring questions), and he’s following your lead. He realizes he’s lost control of the situation and there’s no point in him sticking around.
The logical questions approach is pure genius. Not only do you blow out the AMOG, but you do it in a friendly way. All you really did was ask him friendly questions about himself, so it avoids any confrontation that may have resulted from challenging him.
Tactic #2:
In cases where the AMOG is more challenging (won’t let you into the set, won’t let you engage him in logical questioning, is condescending to you, etc.), you have to take a harder line. With this type you have to be a little patronizing. As you do with comments to women that make them self-conscious, make the AMOG feel self-conscious and deflated about things that he really shouldn’t feel self-conscious about in the first place. Clothing is an easy target:
“Oh man, you’re wearing a (BRAND NAME) shirt? You’re sooo cool, dude.” His likely response will be “What? What’s wrong with (BRAND NAME)?” Come back with “Nothing dude! In high school I used to wear (BRAND NAME). It’s all good”.
“Wow dude, that’s a nice (shirt/watch/suit/hat/scarf). I bet you get ALL the girls with that.”
“I love that shirt man! Abercrombie rocks. I used to wear that shit in high school all the time!”
ATOM BOMB: “That’s a wicked shirt. Where can I get one like it?” (answers with store) "(Store)? Awesome. You're like my PERSONAL FASHION ASSISTANT, dude! Keep the good advice coming! Like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy!"
You can also use the AMOG’s personal style, be it hair, jewelry, or posture, to make him self-conscious:
“Dude, that’s such a nice big gold chain! Is it real?”
For Gino types: “I like your style, bro! You’re like an Italian Stallion!”
“Bro, your hair looks great. How much gel did it take to get it like that?”
For rappers: “I like your style, bro! You look like 50 Cent/P Diddy in that video.” (depending on which one his clothing resembles most).
For white rapper wannabes: “I like that style you’ve got going, dude. Eminem’s wicked!”
For new wave guys: “Awesome style dude, the hipster look fucking rocks!”
For preps: “Dude, you’re dressed to the 9s! You’re overdressed for this place.”
Another factor that can be used to make an AMOG self-conscious is their location or school:
“You guys are from St-Leonard? You guys are sooo cool! Shit, you know I gotta impress you St-Leo guys.”
“You go to McGill? Dude, you’re sooo cool! McGill is SUCH an awesome school!”
Misc Tactics:
If you’re on the dance floor, and he’s a mediocre dancer: “Man, you’re such a great dancer! Show me some of your moves.”
“Man, you and that girl make SUCH a great couple! You should marry her. Go ahead, propose to her!” To avoid looking like he’s not playful, he’ll likely mock-propose to the target and look like a dork, as anyone proposing to a girl they just met would look. Then say “Actually, you know what? You two look too much alike, almost like brother and sister. That’s like incest! (Turn to target) Like marrying your own brother!” The association will be made and she’ll lose attraction for him at the thought of “getting involved with her own brother”.
"Hey bro, these are my little sisters. They just broke up with their boyfriends! Talk to them. Bro, they’re *feisty*. I’ll give you two hundred dollars to take them off my hands!"
AMOG makes a smartass comment to you: "What? What did you say? No, man, what did you just say to try to make yourself look cooler than me? Come on, man, I wanna hear this!"
After talking for a bit with the logical Q&A tactic: “You know, I thought you were a TOTAL prick at first, but you’re pretty cool! You should come to (PLACE) this weekend and meet my friends.”
The key is to say these things with a BIT of sarcasm in your voice, and to exaggerate your enthusiasm slightly. By doing this you make the AMOG feel self-conscious about what you were commenting on. He can’t really say anything, because for all he knows you may have been paying him a sincere compliment!
Demonstrate total confidence that the girl is yours. Do it with a smile and a wink rather than a grunt and a scowl. Don’t be territorial or angry, but show her that you’re going after what you know you want. She’ll appreciate the take-charge attitude.
If for some reason the AMOG gets angry, say “I’m joking around, man. I’m not fucking with you. What’s up man?” Generally the AMOG will befriend you, because they feel the emotional/psychological heat of the interaction, and they want relief of that discomfort. They wanted a return to their comfort zone, which you gave to them.
If you happen to be out with a wingman, another tactic you could use is to have him handle the AMOG. Have him engage him, bombard him with logical questions, and position himself between him and you. Have him get uncomfortably close to the AMOG while he’s talking so he backs up. By the time you close your target your wingman will have pushed the AMOG to the other side of the room. The larger/taller/more built your wingman is, the better he’ll be able to accomplish this.
Finally, the quickest thing you can do to indicate superiority over a guy is to pat him on the shoulder while you’re speaking. In a group, pick the ringleader and do it to him while you’re saying something funny. This will help put you not only above him, but also his boys. Watch out though, unless your completely congruent with this and also use total alpha attitude, you may piss guys off, especially if their alpha themselves.
AMOG advances when you’re on a date
What's the best thing to do when you’re out on a date and a guy is making his move on your girl? The best thing you can do in one of these situations is what you do BEFORE it ever happens... and it's a combination of things:
1) Realize that there's nothing to be insecure and jealous about, and that these things only lead to fear and loss.
2) Get your game in shape with women. Get yourself to the point where you can meet women in ANY situation, this way you always know DEEP DOWN that if any woman you're with ever decides to leave, you can turn around and start meeting women. This eliminates insecurity.
3) Mentally prepare. Take some time to imagine that you're in one of these situations, and notice the feelings you have. Go over it in your mind until you can think about it without having any negative emotions triggered.
And here's what to do when you're actually IN the situation:
1) EXPECT IT. If you start dating hot women, other men will hit on them, GUARANTEED. It's part of life. You have to expect that it's going to happen, and not be surprised when it does.
2) Learn how to have FUN with it. Most guys have no game at all... and it's kind of funny to watch and listen to them. Start to enjoy watching guys try to meet women, because they FAIL miserably in most cases. Wait until a guy is finished trying to pick up on the girl you're with, and then get her to share the details so you can laugh.
3) Suggest that she date the guy. Say "Hey, you guys would make a cute couple... I think you should go for him." Of course, this is all said in a light, fun way.
4) Get her laughing and in a good state, then throw her over your shoulder and walk away from the guy (smirking back in his direction optional!)
5) If you suspect that the girl you're with is actually TRYING to make you jealous, talk to other women. If you actually think that a woman is deliberately trying to make you jealous, you must do some thinking as well. Some women enjoy making men compete over them, and you probably don't want to be with one of these women. They're a pain. But if you think it's just a typical situation and the girl is trying to figure out if you "really" like her (because you'll get jealous if you do), then just turn around and start a conversation with a group of girls... and wait for her to come and find you.
Usually, if a woman is on a date with you and has any respect for you at all, within 30 seconds she’ll have blown out the guy making advances on her. If she hasn’t, then you really should consider whether you should be out with her in the first place.
If a group of AMOGs is blatantly cat-calling your girl from across the street, construction site, etc: Yell out to them “Thanks guys, but I’m taken!”
Generally, AMOG battles don’t last that long—usually a few seconds at most. Most guys are already under stress just talking to a hot woman. Even though they may appear cool on the outside, their confidence is hanging by a very thin thread. It doesn’t take much for you to move in and use anti-AMOG tactics to upset that delicate balance and blow them out. In fact, often anti-AMOG tactics won’t be needed; when the guy sees you move in and start talking to the girl, and the things you’re saying and doing have her smiling and laughing, he’ll feel defeated and excuse himself from the set.
20. Dealing with Let’s Just Be Friends (LJBF)
If you’ve done a lousy job of attracting a woman, or maybe you did great for a while and then slacked off and got boring, you’ll probably hear this suggestion from her sooner or later: “Let’s just be friends”.
If a girl ever blocks advancing the relationship by popping that dreaded phrase, say "No thanks, I have enough friends." By continuing this type of relationship, you portray yourself as someone who has nothing better to do than hang around with a girl who is not that interested in you. The relationship will never get to where you want to go—to bed for some romance, passion, and sex.
A flattering rejection of her offer: "I don't view you as a friend. I view you as a woman - a very sensual and intelligent woman. And I won't apologize for that. If you're gonna make me another one of your girlfriends, I'm not interested".
If you walk away from such a relationship, you've established that you're the type used to leading a relationship, you have plenty of other girls willing to take you on your terms, and she's losing out. Often a man will completely turn around the relationship as soon as a girl sees that he's willing to "walk" rather than accept something that's not on his terms.
When do you give up on a girl? When do you decide that a relationship isn't advancing? When you're the only one making an effort to keep it advancing. If she is not putting energy in to you, take the hint and move on to the next prospect. Don't stay where you're not appreciated. If this situation does occur, try to figure out why. How did she perceive you? What turned her off? Learn from your mistakes.
Another tactic, if you can see that you're approaching LJBF-land with a girl: Completely and totally cut off all contact with her for a few months. When you come back, you can almost start from scratch. You’ll be more of a stranger, and less of a "close friend".
If you decide to keep her as a friend, make sure it's on YOUR terms. Tell her that you're going to treat her like one of the fellas, that she's gonna help you meet women, and that you're going to meet other women in front of her. If she refuses, say: "Ok, fine... but I offered you my time sexually, then I offered you my time NON-sexually... you just turned down BOTH... WHAT DID YOU WANT TO MEET ME FOR?"
"FINE...then be a good FRIEND and hook me up with some of your horny friends."
21. Advancing to Qualifying Her
At what point do you decide that it’s time to advance the interaction, and phase-shift to qualifying her? A good rule of thumb is to advance once you’ve received THREE positive indicators of interest (IOIs). An IOI can be anything that signals attraction, like a shit-test, touching you, lingering eye contact, positive statements of intent (SOI), that doggie dinner-bowl look (DDB), advancing role-plays on her own, qualifying herself to you, primping, etc.
Most of the time it’ll be pretty obvious, through body language/touching, tonality, and mannerisms, that she’s attracted to you. If you’ve REALLY done a good job attracting her, she’ll actually be at the point where she’s the one chasing YOU. This is called the HOOK POINT.
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